* RE: (MAIL) Re: Commercial license?
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@ 2003-03-10 23:22 ` Robert C. Leif
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From: Robert C. Leif @ 2003-03-10 23:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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This was all published in Ada Letters and presented at SIGAda. Since I am
presently the only person involved, there was no need for a formal
arrangement. I have been trying to form a group. I believe that I have come
up with the BEGINNING of a successor to the GNU approach. Amusingly, it
turns out that the use of Ada and associated software engineering can
provide significant commercial advantages. These include an equitable means
to divide up royalties and the capacity for distributed software
development. Also, we lucked out on XML.
Bob Leif
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Porton [mailto:porton@ex-code.com]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:04 PM
To: comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway
Subject: (MAIL) Re: Commercial license?
In article <mailman.13.1047325768.32742.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>,
"Robert C. Leif" <rleif@rleif.com> writes:
> Please note that members are required, in order to have an Ada =
> Developer's
> Cooperative. The present draft has always been subject to amendment,
> enhancement etc. Any suggestions will be reviewed and every reasonable
> effort will be made to include them.
> Bob Leif
What are requests for the memebers? Anybody what does not consider the
low volume (I think) mailing list as a SPAM?
If so I desire become a memeber.
Well, what we will do with the received source code which should be
sent to the cooperative?
P.S. I've not yet read the ADCL do the end.
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* RE: Commercial license?
@ 2003-03-10 19:48 Robert C. Leif
2003-03-10 20:03 ` (MAIL) " Victor Porton
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From: Robert C. Leif @ 2003-03-10 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway'
Please note that members are required, in order to have an Ada Developer's
Cooperative. The present draft has always been subject to amendment,
enhancement etc. Any suggestions will be reviewed and every reasonable
effort will be made to include them.
Bob Leif
-----Original Message-----
From: Marin David Condic [mailto:mcondic.auntie.spam@acm.org]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 4:13 AM
To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org
Subject: Re: Commercial license?
I think there is a problem with this license that may preclude your using it
at the moment. While I like the concept of the ADCL, there is at least one
problem with it. As of this point in time, there is no Ada Developer's
Cooperative to do the administration called for in the license. It possible
that this could be solved, but until it is, you may have a problem trying to
honor the terms of the license.
Ultimately, I see the ADCL as a kind of "Blocking License" - it allows one
to use the software up to the point where there is some sort of financial
gain at stake and then it calls for revenue sharing. IMHO, this would likely
mean that nobody would use the software for commercial purposes because it
would be cheaper to re-develop it in house than it would be to share the
revenues with the original developer. (At least under the rates I had
originally seen in the license - one could always renegotiate the rates.)
I'm wondering if there is a license similar to the ADCL in the respect that
it would allow someone to use the software and share the software with
others, but forbid any usage in which commercial gain is involved.
(Including value-added situations, like bundling it "free" with some other
product for sale.) I'd like to release some software under terms like this
with the notion that if you were using it at home or at work for your own
business, great, but if you start making money with it, you need to come
negotiate another license with me. Does such a license exist?
MDC
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Victor Porton <porton@ex-code.com> wrote in message
news:E18sGKp-0000VI-00@porton.narod.ru...
>
> Should I provide on my Web site this license including or excluding
> introductory section "0"?
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* (MAIL) Re: Commercial license?
2003-03-10 19:48 Robert C. Leif
@ 2003-03-10 20:03 ` Victor Porton
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From: Victor Porton @ 2003-03-10 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: comp.lang.ada mail to news gateway
In article <mailman.13.1047325768.32742.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>,
"Robert C. Leif" <rleif@rleif.com> writes:
> Please note that members are required, in order to have an Ada =
> Developer's
> Cooperative. The present draft has always been subject to amendment,
> enhancement etc. Any suggestions will be reviewed and every reasonable
> effort will be made to include them.
> Bob Leif
What are requests for the memebers? Anybody what does not consider the
low volume (I think) mailing list as a SPAM?
If so I desire become a memeber.
Well, what we will do with the received source code which should be
sent to the cooperative?
P.S. I've not yet read the ADCL do the end.
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