From: "Marius Amado Alves" <amado.alves@netcabo.pt>
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>
Subject: Re: Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 14:08:22 +0100
Date: 2004-03-29T14:08:22+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.164.1080565687.327.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 40681380.4080901@noplace.com
> Maybe we need a term to use for software that is open source but doesn't
> meet the requirements of the owners of the words "Open Source"? What
> about "Sharable Software" or "Sharable Source" - implying that you get
> the source code and that you may share the software but possibly with
> some restrictions.
Several terms have been proposed in OSI and other fora, including
"commercial open source" and "liberal source" I think. "Sharable
software/source" is too close to Microsoft's "shared source". (Please note I
have nothing against Microsoft or shared source or any other Microsoft
practiced business model.)
> I agree with Marius that those who wish to lay claim to the words "Open
> Source" have *a* business model, but not the only possible business
> model...
Nobody legally owns the term yet, and I understand OSI does not intend to do
it.
> ...that wouldn't preclude someone from using the
> words "open" and "source" next to each other in their common English
> meaning to describe the fact that the source code is open and visible to
> the user of the software.
That's what I and others do. I don't want a new term. Reasons include my
believe that SDC Conditions breaching clause 6 of the OSD is a technicality
that will be surpassed eventually by rewording the Conditions (or the OSD),
for example by focusing on commercial use and then *un*restricting
non-commercial use. In sum I believe we don't need a new term because
commercial open source is simply open source i.e. requiring commercial use
to cut a special deal is completely orthogonal to the open source main
tenets. The only problem is that current licenses e.g. GPL are badly phrased
and *unintendly* make selling open source *software* (not support or mugs)
unpractical. Or e.g. SDC Conditions are badly phrased and breach clause 6.
Note selling open source software is a possibility stated in open source /
free software commentary texts. Even the famous "free speech, not free beer"
saying encompasses this possibility. Curiously enough the very rationale for
clause 6 is also about commercial use. So it's simply a legal cunundrum that
I believe the open source community will solve enventually.
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-23 20:39 [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-24 7:42 ` Preben Randhol
2004-03-24 17:37 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-24 10:08 ` Preben Randhol
2004-03-24 13:01 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-28 15:38 ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2004-03-28 22:10 ` tmoran
2004-03-29 12:16 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-29 13:08 ` Marius Amado Alves [this message]
2004-03-29 14:02 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-31 7:35 ` David Starner
2004-03-31 11:27 ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistentuntyped graphs) Marius Amado Alves
2004-03-30 2:46 ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs) Stephen Leake
2004-03-30 11:54 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-30 15:07 ` Licensing issues Florian Weimer
2004-03-30 17:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2004-03-31 0:07 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-03 17:10 ` Florian Weimer
2004-03-31 7:36 ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped graphs) David Starner
2004-03-31 12:27 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-31 14:16 ` Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-01 16:48 ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untyped Robert I. Eachus
2004-03-30 18:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2004-03-31 12:31 ` Marin David Condic
2004-03-29 0:45 ` Licensing issues (Was: [Announce] Mneson : persistent untypedgraphs) Marius Amado Alves
2004-04-01 17:09 ` Licensing issues Jacob Sparre Andersen
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2004-03-24 19:27 ` [Announce] Mneson Manual Marius Amado Alves
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