Re: separating Politics from Reality

Re: separating Politics from Reality

[Grein, Christoph]

> -- you asked for it!
> 
> package body Politics is
> 
>     procedure Reality is separate;
> 
> end Politics;

Castaneda was here.

Re: New Ada compiler for .NET

[Georg Bauhaus]

Marin David Condic <mcondic.auntie.spam@acm.org> wrote:

: Note the amount of damage that has been caused in the past by cyberpunks
: spreading viruses, etc., costing large sums of money and other intangible
: losses to businesses.

Yes, but just hiding things by removing the possibility
of access with a debugger contradicts everything the OS
guys tell you about system security. They tell you, again
and again, that the only way of testing and improving the
security of a system is exposing its mechanism to attackers.
Anything else is a delusion, false security. If a system
cannot be protected from a debugger, then either the
administration has forgotten to separate developement
systems from production systems, or the system's
security parts are severly flawed, aren't they? 

So, indeed, as you say,

: We'd be far
: wiser to fund the development of a much more secure OS and reduce the ways
: in which cyberpunks or terrorists can do damage. (Maybe we can get a
: government contract under the auspices of "Homeland Defense"? :-)

(Hey, some of my best friends are punks, though leftist,
yet ingenious business people, and some of them are
securing servers for US companies, much to the satisfaction
of their employers, installing tar pits etc. :-)

-- georg

Re: New Ada compiler for .NET

[tmoran]

> Anything else is a delusion, false security.
So?  We're talking politics here, not reality.

Re: New Ada compiler for .NET

[Georg Bauhaus]

tmoran@acm.org wrote:
:> Anything else is a delusion, false security.
: So?  We're talking politics here, not reality.
If only the two could be separated :-)

Re: New Ada compiler for .NET

[Wes Groleau]

> :> Anything else is a delusion, false security.
> : So?  We're talking politics here, not reality.
> If only the two could be separated :-)
Seems to me politics and reality are very separate.

Re: New Ada compiler for .NET

[Georg Bauhaus]

Wes Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote:
: 
:> :> Anything else is a delusion, false security.
:> : So?  We're talking politics here, not reality.
:> If only the two could be separated :-)
: Seems to me politics and reality are very separate.
package whatever is
   -- how does politics have access to/from reality?
   type reality;
   type politics (law_n_tax: access reality) is limited private;
   type reality (defying_p: access politics) is abstract 
     tagged limited null record;

private
   type politics (law_n_tax: access reality) is
      limited record
         null;
      end record;

end whatever;

Re: separating Politics from Reality

[Wes Groleau]

-- you asked for it!

package body Politics is

    procedure Reality is separate;

end Politics;

Re: separating Politics from Reality

[Georg Bauhaus]

Wes Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote:
: -- you asked for it!
: 
: package body Politics is
: 
:    procedure Reality is separate;
: 
: end Politics;
: 

-- let me waste some more characters.
with life;  -- is there a cactus in it?

separate (politics)
procedure reality is
   procedure dream renames life.endeavor;
begin
   dream;
end reality;  -- sad

-- I can only think of this as beeing inside some type of
-- political tasks. Perhaps nested tasks with an occasional
-- rendezvous. Unfortunately, we don't really have mutually
-- recursive types in Ada.