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From: "Robert C. Leif" <rleif@rleif.com>
Subject: RE: XML and Ada was RE: A standard package for config files is needed
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:33:26 -0700
Date: 2002-06-06T17:33:26-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.1023410042.7977.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adnqp8$nuk$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>

From: Bob Leif
To: Georg Bauhaus et al.

My comments were specifically directed to XML schema. Therefore, the
SGML handbook is only of historical interest. 

As for floating point types or others used in calculations, it depends
who created the schema. If the schema is created by an Ada programmer,
one obvious simplification is to make the Ada and XML data types as
close as possible. As for further restricting (subtyping) of the Ada
data types, this depends entirely on the application. However, most of
the time, the simplest approach is to initially create a data type to
meet all of one's requirements. 

If I obtain an XML schema that has not been strongly typed, wherever
possible, I create the equivalent of Ada subtypes with explicit ranges. 

-----Original Message-----
From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org
[mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org] On Behalf Of Georg Bauhaus
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 7:15 AM
To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org
Subject: Re: XML and Ada was RE: A standard package for config files is
needed

Robert C. Leif <rleif@rleif.com> wrote:
: I think of a schema as the data types in an Ada specification. The XML
: document data has to be type compliant with the schema. A second
schema
: can make subtypes from or extend types present in an imported (withed)
: schema. I admit that I have an Ada mind set. 

Hmm, would that be more than a schema based XML syntax for the
creation of Ada syntax based definitions of the same data types?

I found this in The SGML Handbook:
"The net result of this design [data as text] is that
an application is free to define its own semantics and
the representation of its data types. The SGML parser can
guarantee that the user's specified attribute values will meet
the applications's lvength and alphabe restrictions, so they
will fit into the application's buffers and be valid input
to the application's routines that convert them to internal
representations.  The application retains the responsibility of
determining whether the converted values satisfy its semantic
constraints.[4]
 "[4] There is no intention here to suggest that standardization
of processing semantics and data type representations would
not be a good thing--only that it should not be the province
of SGML.  Introducing semantic standards into SGML would only
serve to limit the potential processing of a document, as a
single semantic standard is no more likely to be optimal for
all pllications than a single programming language."

What would be the result in case of fpt calculations, e.g.?
If, by the schemata, your data tell me to consider X as a float
with constraints Y, would there be a requirement to use these
constraints in my program? Or would I be free to add precision
by asking the compiler for a higher precision?

-- Georg




  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-07  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-28 10:59 A standard package for config files is needed Preben Randhol
2002-05-28 12:09 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-28 12:09   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-28 16:33 ` Darren New
2002-05-28 18:10   ` achrist
2002-05-28 20:28     ` Darren New
2002-05-28 22:35   ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-29  3:13     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-29  7:18       ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-29 14:40         ` The commercial world needs Ada was " Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29 16:29           ` Darren New
2002-05-29 23:26             ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-30  0:10               ` Darren New
2002-05-29 17:08         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-29 19:34           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-29 11:01   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 16:23     ` Darren New
2002-05-29 21:42       ` achrist
2002-05-30  9:53         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-30 14:45         ` Gautier
2002-05-30 17:00           ` achrist
2002-05-28 20:44 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-29 11:05   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 18:09   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-29 18:59   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-29 19:49     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-30 17:52       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-30 18:21         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-30 22:55           ` Darren New
2002-05-31 15:52             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-31 21:31               ` tmoran
2002-06-01 15:39                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03 13:05                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-30 20:00         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31  6:43         ` Mats Karlssohn
2002-05-31 22:04           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29  2:18 ` SteveD
2002-05-29 11:07   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 12:57     ` SteveD
2002-05-29 13:05       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 13:52         ` SteveD
2002-05-29 13:57           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 16:30           ` Darren New
2002-05-29 19:24             ` Simon Wright
2002-05-30  9:54               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 14:41     ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29 14:59       ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-29 15:30       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 15:32       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 19:29         ` Simon Wright
2002-05-31 16:26           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 16:01       ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-01  2:27         ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-01 16:38           ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-01 17:48             ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-01 18:11               ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-02  3:30                 ` XML and Ada was " Robert C. Leif
2002-06-02  6:52                   ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-02 16:29                     ` XML and Ada Robert C. Leif
2002-06-02  7:54                   ` XML and Ada was RE: A standard package for config files is needed Gerhard Häring
2002-06-02 15:51                     ` Darren New
2002-06-02 19:02                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-02 20:52                         ` Gerhard Häring
2002-06-03  6:10                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-02 22:06                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03  2:17                           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-04 18:48                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-05 14:17                               ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-06 14:15                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-07  0:33                                   ` Robert C. Leif [this message]
2002-06-07 10:55                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-03  2:21                           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-03 14:20                             ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-04  1:39                               ` SteveD
2002-06-03  6:13                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-04 18:54                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-09 20:01                             ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-09 22:24                               ` Eric G. Miller
2002-06-10 12:31                                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-12  4:17                                   ` Eric G. Miller
2002-06-01 20:36               ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-02  3:30                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-01 20:31             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29  7:22 ` Volkert
2002-05-29 14:41   ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29 18:26   ` tmoran
2002-05-30  7:41     ` Volkert Barr
2002-05-30  8:34       ` tmoran
2002-05-30  9:03         ` Volkert Barr
2002-05-30 13:39         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31 16:25           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-31 16:50             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 22:24               ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-01 15:44                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-31 17:25             ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-01 13:51               ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-03 13:23                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-04 11:46                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-01 15:53               ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-30 15:08         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-30 16:07           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 16:39         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 21:31           ` tmoran
2002-05-31  9:05     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-31 11:01       ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-31 13:15       ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-01 15:46         ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-01 16:50           ` Darren New
2002-05-31 13:34       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-29 19:05   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-30  7:49     ` Volkert Barr
2002-05-31 16:42       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 17:56 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-29 18:25 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-30 19:58 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-05-30 20:12   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31  7:37     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 13:21       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31 13:46         ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-01 11:23           ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-01 11:10         ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-01 15:50         ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03 12:53         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-05-30 23:08   ` Darren New
2002-05-31 13:30   ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03  1:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-06-03  6:24   ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-03 15:54     ` Darren New
2002-06-03 16:49       ` Darren New
2002-06-09 21:27   ` Stephen Leake
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