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From: Christoph Grein <christoph.grein@eurocopter.com>
Subject: Re: Refactoring and Ada
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:19:41 +0100 (MET)
Date: 2002-02-20T07:19:41+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.1014186062.20211.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> (raw)

> > It turns out that 'Valid is not as useful as many of us thought it was. For
> > example,  the result of an erroneous result from unchecked conversion,
> > which we originally thought was harmless if we checked it ourselves
> > with 'Valid before using it is a problem.   Consider the following,
> > 
> >                type X is ... ;
> >                type Y is ... ;
> > 
> >                function Convert is new Ada.Unchecked_Conversion
> >                                          (Source => Y, Target => X);
> > 
> >                 X := Convert (Y);     -- suppose X is erroneous or not valid
> >                 if X'Valid then ...      -- We used to think this was OK.
> >                                                  -- Some compilers fail on 
this because of an
> > interpretation
> >                                                  -- of the ALRM rules.
> > 
> >  At present, one must wonder about the usefulness of 'Valid.
> 
> There is an AI with a binding interpretation that was included in the
> TC that says that at least for scalar types the above code is
> not errorious and must work as expected.
> 
> SO any compiler that fail on the above are non-compliant.

I've got  the AARM with COR.1:2000 in front of me. There are no changes in 13.9, 
13.9.1, 13.9.2.
Thus a compiler failing to handle the above correctly has always been buggy.

Note that 'Valid exists for scalar objects only.



             reply	other threads:[~2002-02-20  6:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-20  6:19 Christoph Grein [this message]
2002-02-20 17:52 ` Valid for composite (was Re: Refactoring and Ada) kumano
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2002-02-07 11:26 Refactoring and Ada Christoph Grein
2002-02-07 18:31 ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-08 12:45   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 17:20     ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-05  6:15 Christoph Grein
2002-02-01 15:13 Paul Anderson
2002-02-02 17:48 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-02 20:36   ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03  0:21     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 13:53       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:23         ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:17           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-04 20:48             ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04 22:31               ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-04 22:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-06  2:51                 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 18:50       ` Simon Wright
2002-02-04  4:32     ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 12:28       ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-02-04 17:03         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:19           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-04 17:59       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-04 18:50         ` Pascal Obry
2002-02-05  1:07           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-05  1:44         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:42           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-06 17:32         ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-07  8:45         ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-07 13:54           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03 13:48   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:38     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:20       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 21:21       ` Paul Anderson
2002-02-03  9:45 ` Volkert
2002-02-08  9:24 ` Martin Dowie
2002-02-08 15:15   ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08 15:52     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-08 16:06     ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-08 17:07       ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-09 19:48         ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-09 23:05           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-10  1:30     ` Marc A. Criley
2002-02-10  2:58       ` tmoran
2002-02-11 15:27       ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-12 19:16         ` Simon Wright
2002-02-15 19:43           ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-15 20:33           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-15 21:40             ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-19 16:54               ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-19 19:39                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-20  4:23                   ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-20  5:20                     ` Mark Biggar
2002-02-20  9:58                     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 17:14                       ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 17:18                         ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 18:08                           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 22:12                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-23 22:48                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-21  0:41                           ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-21  1:31                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 14:37                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 21:23                               ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:04                                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-25 20:26                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:21                                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-23 22:58                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-23 22:55                     ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-26  1:05                       ` Nick Roberts
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