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From: "Steven Deller" <deller@smsail.com>
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>
Subject: RE: Dimensionality Checking (Ada 20XX)
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2001 12:18:58 -0500
Date: 2001-12-27T12:18:58-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.1009473662.2710.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9vknmb$2vf$1@mvme66.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de>

Thomas,
Actually, you are missing a divisor in your computation of vapor load.
It actually is
  Vapor Load = V_l = V_cfs * sqrt( rho_v/(rho_l-rho_v)) 
and this results in length^3/time whole units:
  V_cfs = length^3/time
  rho_* = mass/length^3
  so,  length^3/time * sqrt( mass/length^3 / (mass/length^3 -
mass/length^3))
  = length^3/time

The following site has a full chem eng distillation analysis:
  http://chemeng.uah.edu/courses/che446sp99/spray1.html

Every computation I saw had full units (or unitless ratios).  There did
not seem to be a need for non-integral units.

The line computing V_l states it is Vapor Load, ft/s but is is clearly
cu ft/s (which makes more sense if one is computing a vapor load on a
column).

INMHO, fractional units simply make no sense for any stated value.  They
*might* occur in a partial computation, e.g. sqrt(length1) *
sqrt(length2), though that would more properly be written as
sqrt(length1*length2).  I cannot think of any computation where
fractional units *do* occur, even in partial results.  

It would be nice to have one clear example from the real world where
fractional units occur before building a solution for something that
will never be used.

Regards,
Steve

> -----Original Message-----
...
> 
> In order to be sufficiently general, dimensions would have to 
> be factional numbers for intermediate results, at least.  
> There are too many cases where square or cubed or other roots 
> turn up in normal calculations.
> 
> For example, one important factor in distillation column 
> design, the vapor load, is defined as F = w * rho^(1/2), 
> where w is the speed in (Length/Time) and rho is the density 
> (Mass/Length^3), so its unit actually is  kg^0.5/m^0.5/s in 
> SI units.  And yes, people do publish values and correlations 
> for this factor. _______________________________________________

>




  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-27 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-07  0:09 Dimensionality Checking (Ada 20XX) Snodgrass, Britt (NM75)
2001-12-07 16:15 ` Ian
2001-12-09 17:58   ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-09 22:58     ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-10  0:17     ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-10  1:51       ` James Rogers
2001-12-10  3:33         ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-10 19:09           ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-11  8:20             ` Thomas Koenig
2001-12-11 15:37               ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-11 20:18                 ` Thomas Koenig
2001-12-12  0:58                   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-12  8:19                     ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2001-12-12 14:21                     ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-12 19:10                       ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-13 19:04                         ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-13 22:56                           ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-14  0:11                             ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-14 22:14                       ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-15  1:30                         ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-10 20:22         ` Thomas Koenig
2001-12-10 17:21       ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-10 19:51         ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-10 19:56           ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-10 20:37             ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-10 18:56       ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-11 15:05         ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-11 16:39         ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-11 19:05           ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-11 22:50             ` Mark Johnson
2001-12-12  1:59               ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-11 23:01             ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-12  2:21               ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-12 14:16                 ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-13 19:52                   ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-13 22:22                     ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-14  6:40                       ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-12-14 17:30                       ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-14 17:38                     ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-11 22:45           ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-12  1:42             ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-12 15:17               ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-12 14:03             ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-12  9:35           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-12 14:26             ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-13 17:02               ` daniele andreatta
2001-12-13 19:06                 ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-14 10:16                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-14 22:01                   ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-17 11:10                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-17 12:16                       ` Thomas Koenig
2001-12-17 14:30                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-27 17:18                         ` Steven Deller [this message]
2001-12-15  7:07                   ` Steven Deller
2001-12-17 12:31                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-17 13:46                       ` Thomas Koenig
2001-12-17 15:00                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-17 16:38                         ` Thomas Koenig
2001-12-17 21:07                       ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-12-20 13:44                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-13 19:33         ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-13 22:15           ` Nick Roberts
2001-12-14 20:20             ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-10 23:31       ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-10 13:57     ` Ian
2001-12-10 17:24       ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-10 20:38       ` Britt Snodgrass
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-11 13:11 Mike Brenner
2001-12-11 17:03 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-02 16:01 Another Idea for Ada 20XX James Rogers
2001-12-03 14:56 ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-03 15:12   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-12-03 21:13     ` Dimensionality Checking (Ada 20XX) Nick Roberts
2001-12-04 14:00       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-06 19:52         ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-12-06 20:55           ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-06 22:38           ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-06 23:12             ` Mark Lundquist
2001-12-07 14:36               ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-07  9:37           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-12-07 22:51           ` Mark Lundquist
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