Re: Future with Ada

[Michal Nowak <vinnie@inetia.pl>]

On 01-11-13 at 22:43 Maciej Sobczak wrote:

>Good idea. The problem is that you can learn and try many different
>languages as your own hobby, but when it comes to commerce, you're at
>the mercy of big companies, like M$ or Sun. You see, the problem with
>Ada (and recently with C++ - its market is shrinking, I think - esp. in
>Poland) is that they're *standard* languages. It means, that no company
>can close its market with any of those languages. Making compilers of
>Ada or C++ just does not pay well if people can migrate with their
>software from one compiler's vendor to another. M$ is better off
>investing big bucks into the C# development (and marketing), because
>once you get into the trap, you belong to them forever. The same is true
>for Sun with Java. You will never hear from them that C# and/or Java are
>far behind Ada and C++, even if M$ officially admits that C++ is the
>most extensively used language in the company (Windows, Office,
>Exchange, VStudio, all other stuff). I can bet that Sun still keeps lots
>of C/C++ programmers for server and OS development (and Java run-time,
>for that matter), too. So where this trend to Java/C# comes from? From
>money, of course. And there's a crowd that follows.

All this is sad truth. I wonder what would be if M$ released something
like MS Ada. Of course it would be specially modified non-portable Ada,
with all M$ tricks inside. I'm really curious, what percentage of
comapnies would stick into it, just because it would be from Bill...
BTW, when I was one time on Sun's page to download JDK for some laboratory
project, I saw their article on Java. It's content was something like:
"Java will make you happy, your life will be easier, you will find the joy
of programming". And there also table with comparision of Java to some
other languages (there was no Ada, of course...). They claimed that Java
programs have the same performance as those in C++. Do I take right the
meaning of 'performance'? In fact Java made my life harder and unhappy
with its slooow execution and large memory demand.
The real joy of programming (and designing) gave me Ada (although I had some
with C++ also). The more I learn it, the more I am fascinated. Yea, Ada
is really great! So why not to have joy of professional work (not only as
a hobby?). That is why I started this thread.
Or maybe the outburst will come? Maybe Ada 95 was designed too early,
maybe the current level of software engineering is too low? Some newly
created languages (like C#, Java, PHP) include a bit of Ada's features.
Then there is a big 'hurrah' during release of them, shouting how great
it is, because it has 'this' or 'that' which no other language has.
But 'this' and 'that' already are in Ada. Reinventing the wheel (or trying
to invent it)?.

>That's why I'm not so optimistic when it comes to the near future.

Thanks to some people I started to look brighter into the future,
the future with Ada!

>Czesc,
Trzymaj sie,
Michal
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