* Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile [not found] <20011007212703.80C60A801E@ada.eu.org> @ 2001-10-11 23:48 ` Ann S. Brandon 2001-10-12 0:40 ` Gerhard Häring ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Ann S. Brandon @ 2001-10-11 23:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: comp.lang.ada This is response to Tom Moran's comment on Sunday: > I asked Google for "Ada Compilers" > and got a bunch of stuff, but the first several entries were for very > old web pages with antiquated information. I searched on Google twice on two different computers for Ada compilers (not using any quotes) and got, as a first hit, the antiquated Ada Home page, and on the second the newest AdaIC Compiler page. http://www.adaic.org/compilers/ > Eventually I saw > directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Ada/Compilers > and www.acm.org/sigada et al, but someone who didn't already know the > answers already would have waded through a lot of unhelpful stuff > first. I will definitely contact the person in charge of this directory and set her straight. > Do a google search and see what I mean. Same result both times. So I'm not sure how to repeat your results. > Do the other search > engines turn up more helpful information? I'll check on this next week. Am not sure yet if we need to register the pages officially or just depend on the search engines to do their jobs. > What can be done to make it > easy, instead of hard, for someone new to Ada to find a compiler? > I hope our new site will make this easy with its drop-down menus, which allow surfers to go instantly anywhere in the site. In other words, if someone lands on almost any page of our new site, they are be able to go to the compilers list to compare compilers, or to the downloads list to get a free temporary one and try out Ada. By the way, I'm *always* interested in new search word suggestions from anyone to help people find the new AdaIC web site. Thanks, Ann Brandon -- -33- Onyons, Inc. P.O. Box 294 Randolph Center, VT 05061 USA (802) 728-9947 abrandon@sover.net Shameless self-promotion: Chekck out my new book, "Artful Italy" (November 2001), at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/193122904X/qid%3D1002843950/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F0%5F1/103-3118907-9937403 ***** ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile 2001-10-11 23:48 ` Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile Ann S. Brandon @ 2001-10-12 0:40 ` Gerhard Häring 2001-10-12 0:50 ` David Botton 2001-10-12 0:45 ` Larry Kilgallen ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Gerhard Häring @ 2001-10-12 0:40 UTC (permalink / raw) On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:48:40 -0400, Ann S. Brandon <abrandon@sover.net> wrote: >This is response to Tom Moran's comment on Sunday: > >> I asked Google for "Ada Compilers" >> and got a bunch of stuff, but the first several entries were for very >> old web pages with antiquated information. > >I searched on Google twice on two different computers for Ada compilers >(not using any quotes) and got, as a first hit, the antiquated Ada Home >page, and on the second the newest AdaIC Compiler page. > >http://www.adaic.org/compilers/ > >> Eventually I saw >> directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Ada/Compilers >> and www.acm.org/sigada et al, but someone who didn't already know the >> answers already would have waded through a lot of unhelpful stuff >> first. Yes, *please* do. If Google doesn't allow for "editor feedback", please go to the same category (replace directory.google.com with dmoz.org) at dmoz.org and send a short note to the category maintainers. You can skip the editor ghaering, cos that's me and I am already aware of the quality problem of the Ada category. But I have almost given up editing in this category, because the other guy's policies wrt to quality-vs-quantity seem to be incompatible with mine. Speaking of which, Adapower does have a list of compilers vendors. Gerhard -- mail: gerhard <at> bigfoot <dot> de registered Linux user #64239 web: http://www.cs.fhm.edu/~ifw00065/ OpenPGP public key id 86AB43C0 public key fingerprint: DEC1 1D02 5743 1159 CD20 A4B6 7B22 6575 86AB 43C0 reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda x:chr(ord(x)^42),tuple('zS^BED\nX_FOY\x0b'))) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile 2001-10-12 0:40 ` Gerhard Häring @ 2001-10-12 0:50 ` David Botton 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: David Botton @ 2001-10-12 0:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: comp.lang.ada How exactly did it happen that I was replaced as the editor for dmoz.org (certainly if I overly minded I would have said something a while ago)?.... Never quite understood :-) Perhaps the same means can be used to replace your partner. David Botton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerhard H�ring" <gerhard.nospam@bigfoot.de> > But I have almost given up editing in this > category, because the other guy's policies wrt to quality-vs-quantity > seem to be incompatible with mine. > > Speaking of which, Adapower does have a list of compilers vendors. > > Gerhard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile 2001-10-11 23:48 ` Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile Ann S. Brandon 2001-10-12 0:40 ` Gerhard Häring @ 2001-10-12 0:45 ` Larry Kilgallen 2001-10-12 1:18 ` tmoran 2001-10-12 4:06 ` Michael Garrett 3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2001-10-12 0:45 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <mailman.1002844217.25843.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>, "Ann S. Brandon" <abrandon@sover.net> writes: > I hope our new site will make this easy with its drop-down menus, which > allow surfers to go instantly anywhere in the site. In other words, if > someone lands on almost any page of our new site, they are be able to go > to the compilers list to compare compilers, or to the downloads list to > get a free temporary one and try out Ada. Please make sure it works from secured browsers (Java, JavaScript and cookies all disabled). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile 2001-10-11 23:48 ` Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile Ann S. Brandon 2001-10-12 0:40 ` Gerhard Häring 2001-10-12 0:45 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 2001-10-12 1:18 ` tmoran 2001-10-12 2:05 ` Larry Kilgallen 2001-10-12 4:06 ` Michael Garrett 3 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: tmoran @ 2001-10-12 1:18 UTC (permalink / raw) > > Eventually I saw > > directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Ada/Compilers > > and www.acm.org/sigada et al, but someone who didn't already know the > I will definitely contact the person in charge of this directory and set > her straight. I didn't mean those had problems - the problem was finding those from the simple google search (without being led astray by adahome). > I hope our new site will make this easy with its drop-down menus, which Again, the problem is not the content of the site, but being led astray before finding the site. > By the way, I'm *always* interested in new search word suggestions from "forestall cyberterrorism" "safe cyber infrastructure" "security" "hardened software" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile 2001-10-12 1:18 ` tmoran @ 2001-10-12 2:05 ` Larry Kilgallen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2001-10-12 2:05 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <Axrx7.4995$gT6.3326554@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com>, tmoran@acm.org writes: >> By the way, I'm *always* interested in new search word suggestions from > "forestall cyberterrorism" "safe cyber infrastructure" "security" > "hardened software" Try some negatives: software error, software defect, software bug, (same three with "computer"). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile 2001-10-11 23:48 ` Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile Ann S. Brandon ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2001-10-12 1:18 ` tmoran @ 2001-10-12 4:06 ` Michael Garrett 3 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Michael Garrett @ 2001-10-12 4:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: comp.lang.ada Hello Ann, At one time, we had a conversation ( several actually ) about using ada in medical instruments. Alot has changed since we last emailed!! I have have another baby ( girl Charlotte ) to make a total of three. I think we had one the last time we communicated. I have resigned my position as VP of RD at medical research Labs (MRL) and have started a consulting company with my wife. We are both working part time and raising the family full time.... MRL came out with two more products, both AED Automatic External Defibrillators using "C", leveraging our existing code base. As a consultant I will be concentrating on finding a "seed" product to form a manufacturing company around. Anyway...Recognized your name and thought I'd say hi! Michael C. Garrett Garrett Technologies Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann S. Brandon <abrandon@sover.net> Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada To: <comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile > > This is response to Tom Moran's comment on Sunday: > > > I asked Google for "Ada Compilers" > > and got a bunch of stuff, but the first several entries were for very > > old web pages with antiquated information. > > I searched on Google twice on two different computers for Ada compilers > (not using any quotes) and got, as a first hit, the antiquated Ada Home > page, and on the second the newest AdaIC Compiler page. > > http://www.adaic.org/compilers/ > > > Eventually I saw > > directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Ada/Compilers > > and www.acm.org/sigada et al, but someone who didn't already know the > > answers already would have waded through a lot of unhelpful stuff > > first. > > I will definitely contact the person in charge of this directory and set > her straight. > > > Do a google search and see what I mean. > > Same result both times. So I'm not sure how to repeat your results. > > > Do the other search > > engines turn up more helpful information? > > I'll check on this next week. Am not sure yet if we need to register the > pages officially or just depend on the search engines to do their jobs. > > > What can be done to make it > > easy, instead of hard, for someone new to Ada to find a compiler? > > > > I hope our new site will make this easy with its drop-down menus, which > allow surfers to go instantly anywhere in the site. In other words, if > someone lands on almost any page of our new site, they are be able to go > to the compilers list to compare compilers, or to the downloads list to > get a free temporary one and try out Ada. > > By the way, I'm *always* interested in new search word suggestions from > anyone to help people find the new AdaIC web site. > > Thanks, > Ann Brandon > -- > -33- > > Onyons, Inc. > P.O. Box 294 > Randolph Center, VT 05061 > USA > (802) 728-9947 > abrandon@sover.net > > Shameless self-promotion: Chekck out my new book, "Artful Italy" > (November 2001), at > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/193122904X/qid%3D1002843950/ref%3Dsr% 5F11%5F0%5F1/103-3118907-9937403 > ***** ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* RE: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile [not found] <004901c152d3$53b51d00$01010101@oxygen> @ 2001-10-12 5:44 ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D. 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Robert C. Leif, Ph.D. @ 2001-10-12 5:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: comp.lang.ada From: Bob Leif To: Michael Garrett, Ann Brandon et al. Although to most of us the utility of Ada for medical devices is obvious, the FDA has not been educated to this fact. My own pleasant experience was having a software manager in a state of euphoria, when the time for integration was less than two days and he beat the date for completion of the hardware. As a former professor of Biomedical Engineering, I have always been upset about the lack of instruction in the regulatory aspect of the profession. This is in spite of about one fourth of the students becoming involved in satisfying the FDA, who is the first customer for the device. I might also suggest, that if one has an installed, well tested code base in C, it is quite reasonable to reuse this code. However, this can be done by encapsulating the C into the bodies of Ada packages. -----Original Message----- From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of Michael Garrett Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:07 PM To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org Subject: Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile Hello Ann, At one time, we had a conversation ( several actually ) about using ada in medical instruments. Alot has changed since we last emailed!! I have have another baby ( girl Charlotte ) to make a total of three. I think we had one the last time we communicated. I have resigned my position as VP of RD at medical research Labs (MRL) and have started a consulting company with my wife. We are both working part time and raising the family full time.... MRL came out with two more products, both AED Automatic External Defibrillators using "C", leveraging our existing code base. As a consultant I will be concentrating on finding a "seed" product to form a manufacturing company around. Anyway...Recognized your name and thought I'd say hi! Michael C. Garrett Garrett Technologies Inc. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann S. Brandon <abrandon@sover.net> Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada To: <comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Inexpensive Developer Level Commercial ADA compile > > This is response to Tom Moran's comment on Sunday: > > > I asked Google for "Ada Compilers" > > and got a bunch of stuff, but the first several entries were for very > > old web pages with antiquated information. > > I searched on Google twice on two different computers for Ada compilers > (not using any quotes) and got, as a first hit, the antiquated Ada Home > page, and on the second the newest AdaIC Compiler page. > > http://www.adaic.org/compilers/ > > > Eventually I saw > > directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Ada/Compilers > > and www.acm.org/sigada et al, but someone who didn't already know the > > answers already would have waded through a lot of unhelpful stuff > > first. > > I will definitely contact the person in charge of this directory and set > her straight. > > > Do a google search and see what I mean. > > Same result both times. So I'm not sure how to repeat your results. > > > Do the other search > > engines turn up more helpful information? > > I'll check on this next week. Am not sure yet if we need to register the > pages officially or just depend on the search engines to do their jobs. > > > What can be done to make it > > easy, instead of hard, for someone new to Ada to find a compiler? > > > > I hope our new site will make this easy with its drop-down menus, which > allow surfers to go instantly anywhere in the site. In other words, if > someone lands on almost any page of our new site, they are be able to go > to the compilers list to compare compilers, or to the downloads list to > get a free temporary one and try out Ada. > > By the way, I'm *always* interested in new search word suggestions from > anyone to help people find the new AdaIC web site. > > Thanks, > Ann Brandon > -- > -33- > > Onyons, Inc. > P.O. Box 294 > Randolph Center, VT 05061 > USA > (802) 728-9947 > abrandon@sover.net > > Shameless self-promotion: Chekck out my new book, "Artful Italy" > (November 2001), at > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/193122904X/qid%3D1002843950/ref%3Dsr% 5F11%5F0%5F1/103-3118907-9937403 > ***** ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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