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From: "Steven Deller" <deller@smsail.com>
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>
Subject: RE: ada vs. cpp
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:36:01 -0400
Date: 2001-10-10T10:36:01-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.1002724898.8980.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrn9s8bnv.11k.lutz@taranis.iks-jena.de>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org
> [mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of Lutz Donnerhacke
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:21 AM
> To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org
> Subject: Re: ada vs. cpp
>
> * Dmitry Kazakov wrote:
> >1. If you mean that Ada has no type to represent the whole set of all
> >integers, yes it is true. [as well as it is for all other languages
> >designed for finite discrete machines]
>
> man Haskell. (or any other lazy evaluation language with
> unlimited arithmetics)

Of course that is limited by the machine memory, so it is unlimited, but not
infinite and thus doesn't cover all integers either.

Numerous unlimited arithmetic packages have been defined in Ada for
integers, for rational's and for floating point.  Any type derived from
those packages have the unlimited aspect you are looking for.  And they are
used "naturally", e.g.

  with unlimited_integers;
  use unlimited_integers ; -- I personally think this is justified for
arithmetic packages
  procedure test is
     a,b,c : unlimited_integer ;
  begin
     a := unlimited_integer(100);  -- a := 100; -- if mixed arith defined in
the package
     b := unlimited_integer(100);
     c := a**b ;  -- not your ordinary integer :-)
     a := c**c ;  -- likely to overflow machine memory :-(
  exception
     when storage_error =>
         -- code to handle machine limits
  end test ;

I also believe one could create a symbolic processing type, which just
collected operators without evaluation, and doing symbolic simplification
before assignments.  True lazy evaluation.  Hmmm -- might be interesting to
define, since there would have to be symbolic literals.

Regards,
Steve
"Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."
Steven Deller        Smooth Sailing LLC
410 757 6924         deller@smsail.com





  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-10-10 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 148+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-03 20:42 ada vs. cpp Ralph M�ritz
2001-10-03 20:56 ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-03 21:07   ` Ralph M�ritz
2001-10-04  5:08     ` Pi
2001-10-04  5:07       ` Ed Falis
2001-10-04  5:13       ` David Starner
2001-10-04 10:57         ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-04 13:18           ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-04 16:30             ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-04 17:05               ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-05 15:22               ` Mike Mohr
2001-10-06  9:15                 ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-06 11:23                   ` MM
2001-10-06 12:27                     ` Marc A. Criley
2001-10-06 16:53                     ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 13:51                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 14:13                       ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 14:25                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-10 16:46                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-10-09 15:10                         ` Robert*
2001-10-09 16:17                           ` James Rogers
2001-10-11 12:03                             ` David Botton
2001-10-09 14:43                       ` Robert*
2001-10-09 15:18                         ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 18:21                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-09 20:37                             ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 16:21                         ` James Rogers
2001-10-09 16:43                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-10  5:18                         ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-10 13:21                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-10 14:15                           ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-22  2:07                             ` David Thompson
2001-10-22 13:35                               ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-22 19:14                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-10-23  5:40                               ` Richard Riehle
2001-10-09 15:06                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
     [not found]                       ` <9pv2f20jf4@drn.newsguy <3BC3240B.96703A8B@worldnet.att.net>
2001-10-10  5:47                         ` Simon Wright
2001-10-06 22:38                   ` Frode Tennebø
2001-10-06 23:48                     ` mike
2001-10-07  7:31                       ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-08 14:55                   ` Mike Mohr
2001-10-08 15:07                     ` Mike Mohr
2001-10-08 16:34                     ` Robert*
2001-10-08 17:47                       ` Mike Mohr
2001-10-08 18:38                         ` Robert*
2001-10-09 14:56                           ` Mike Mohr
2001-10-09 15:20                             ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 16:14                             ` Steven Deller
2001-10-09 16:55                             ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-08 19:19                         ` James Rogers
2001-10-09  8:17                         ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-09 15:46                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 17:35                           ` Mike Mohr
2001-10-09 18:45                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-08 18:02                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09  4:59               ` David Thompson
2001-10-04 13:16         ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-05  7:50         ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-10-05 13:31           ` David Starner
2001-10-05 15:34             ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-05 17:49               ` David Starner
2001-10-05 18:54                 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-05 22:02                   ` James Rogers
2001-10-05 22:35                     ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-06  3:44                   ` David Starner
2001-10-08  8:18             ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-10-08 13:33               ` David Starner
2001-10-09 13:36                 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 15:29                   ` David Starner
2001-10-10 11:01                     ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-10-10 11:20                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-10 12:14                         ` Robert*
2001-10-10 13:31                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-10 14:36                         ` Steven Deller [this message]
2001-10-10 14:59                           ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-10 15:15                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-10 15:16                           ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-10-10 16:10                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-11  8:02                               ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-10-10 15:59                         ` Brian Rogoff
2001-10-10 18:50                           ` David Starner
2001-10-11  9:28                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-10 14:03                       ` David Starner
2001-10-10 16:40                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-10 17:53                         ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-10 23:11                           ` David Starner
2001-10-11  3:00                             ` James Rogers
2001-10-22  2:10                               ` David Thompson
2001-10-05 13:52           ` James Rogers
2001-10-05 14:28             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-05 14:07           ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-16  4:52           ` David Thompson
2001-10-16 10:21             ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-11-13  2:12               ` David Thompson
2001-11-13 10:21                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-11-13 16:05                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-11-14  9:29                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-10-04  6:01       ` mike
2001-10-04  8:42         ` Pi
2001-10-04 12:22           ` James Rogers
2001-10-04 17:50         ` perl Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-10-04 19:27           ` perl maa
2001-10-05 12:15             ` perl Georg Bauhaus
2001-10-04 19:28           ` perl Larry Kilgallen
2001-10-05  7:24           ` perl Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-05 12:38             ` perl Georg Bauhaus
2001-10-06 19:00               ` perl Florian Weimer
2001-10-04 16:26       ` ada vs. cpp Pascal Obry
2001-10-04 18:47         ` David Botton
2001-10-04 22:29         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2001-10-04 22:31           ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-04 22:52           ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-05 12:43             ` Georg Bauhaus
2001-10-05 13:09               ` Preben Randhol
2001-10-06  1:05         ` Mike Silva
2001-10-04 13:50     ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03 21:03 ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-04  2:40 ` Jeff
2001-10-05  1:23 ` Adrian Hoe
2001-10-05  4:34   ` mike
2001-10-05  4:42   ` mike
2001-10-05 11:13     ` Adrian Hoe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-10-12 20:54 Richard Pinkall-Pollei
2001-10-12 21:28 ` Vector..
2001-10-13  7:07   ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-10-14  8:15   ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-15 10:04   ` Nexus
2001-10-15 12:18   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-15 21:25     ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-22  2:08       ` David Thompson
2001-10-22  7:04         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-22  7:31           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-11-13  2:12           ` David Thompson
2001-10-16  8:47     ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-16 10:08       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-16 11:07         ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-16 12:00           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-16 19:08           ` Darren New
2001-10-16 15:46         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-16 19:31           ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-16 20:13             ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-16 21:42               ` Stephen Leake
2001-10-17  8:37                 ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-17  8:45                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-16 13:45       ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-16 13:54         ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2001-10-16 13:54         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-15 13:44   ` Marin David Condic
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