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From: "Robert C. Leif, Ph.D." <rleif@rleif.com>
To: <comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>
Subject: RE: The Hobby Lobby was Windows CE?
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 00:13:24 -0700
Date: 2001-09-27T00:13:24-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mailman.1001574865.28724.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajqs7.6294$ev2.11268@www.newsranger.com>

From:Bob Leif
To: Ted Dennison et al.

The failure of ObjectAda was based on more than the problems with the
consumer market. Frankly, although I often disagree with Robert Dewar on
economics and marketing, ACT has greatly benefited by creating virtually
everything they write in Ada. Yes, they do use GNU components in other
languages. However, their Ada shows through very nicely. Also, a very
important part of the commercial world is interested in decimals. ACT also
has succeeded in attracting some excellent developers of related products.

However, if any of the other compiler companies would use as much Ada as
possible and would organize a group based on my suggested ADA DEVELOPERS
COOPERATIVE LICENSE, then we might see some real competition.

The reality is that Ada quality is essential; and a means has to be created
to remunerate the developers. My workshop on the symbiosis between Ada and
XML will have a few thoughts on how to make some money.

In case any of you actually believe that Microsoft is invincible. I just
wasted about 3 hours trying to create a proposal in Word. It took about 30
minutes in FrameMaker. I am sure that the other long suffering technical
users would desert Microsoft for products that actually worked.

-----Original Message-----
From: comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org
[mailto:comp.lang.ada-admin@ada.eu.org]On Behalf Of Ted Dennison
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:49 PM
To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org
Subject: Re: The Hobby Lobby was Windows CE?


In article <3BB22F0E.718B1244@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com>, Wes Groleau
says...
>Maybe so.  Might work after all.  OTOH, Linux is much larger physically
>than GNAT
>and more complicated and had a market already.

True. And one should also note that two folks who should know the most about
the
ability of someone to sell Ada in this market don't think its feasable.
Certianly after the failure of ObjectAda in the mass consumer market, I
think
anyone who believes its doable is going to need to *prove* it.

---
T.E.D.    homepage   - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html
          home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com




  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-09-27  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-09-19 10:30 Windows CE? John McCabe
2001-09-20 14:56 ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-21  9:30   ` John McCabe
2001-09-21 14:13     ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-21 15:01       ` John McCabe
2001-09-22  4:12         ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-22  6:59         ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D.
2001-09-22 12:21           ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-22 13:41             ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-09-24 14:55           ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-24 18:13             ` The Hobby Lobby was " Richard Riehle
2001-09-24 18:55               ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-25 10:49                 ` John McCabe
2001-09-25 14:27                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-25 16:41                   ` Wes Groleau
2001-09-26 12:56                     ` John McCabe
2001-09-26 16:50                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-09-26 18:17                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-26 19:13                           ` tmoran
2001-09-26 19:39                           ` Wes Groleau
2001-09-26 19:49                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-26 19:55                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-26 21:17                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-27 13:44                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-27 15:07                                     ` Gary Scott
2001-09-27 15:37                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 13:23                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-28 13:45                                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-30 14:28                                             ` Nils Kassube
2001-10-01  1:42                                               ` Gary Scott
2001-10-01 14:14                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-01 15:05                                                 ` Nils Kassube
2001-09-29  3:10                                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-28 15:49                                         ` Gary Scott
2001-09-28 17:28                                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 19:27                                             ` David Starner
2001-10-01 14:23                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-10-12 21:01                                               ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-10-13  1:43                                                 ` David Starner
2001-09-28 15:56                                         ` Chad Robert Meiners
2001-09-28 17:33                                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 20:28                                             ` Aristophon
2001-09-28 20:15                                               ` Pascal Obry
2001-09-28 22:30                                                 ` GNAT ftp sites/mirrors ... was:The Hobby Lobby Aristophon
2001-09-29  3:09                                                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-29 18:34                                             ` The Hobby Lobby was Windows CE? Chad R. Meiners
2001-09-27  7:13                               ` Robert C. Leif, Ph.D. [this message]
2001-09-27 13:51                                 ` DuckE
2001-09-30 23:17                       ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-26  2:18                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-26  4:52                     ` David Botton
2001-09-28  1:15                       ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-26 12:56                     ` John McCabe
2001-09-28  1:20                       ` Robert Dewar
2001-09-28  8:33                         ` John McCabe
2001-09-28 14:07                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 15:12                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-28 15:35                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-28 15:50                               ` John McCabe
2001-09-24 20:28               ` David Botton
2001-09-24 21:42                 ` Richard Riehle
2001-09-24 23:22                   ` David Botton
2001-09-21 14:59     ` Ted Dennison
2001-09-24  9:16 ` John McCabe
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