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From: "Daniel Fischer" <dan@gueldenland.de>
Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 12:01:58 +0200
Date: 2001-08-03T12:01:58+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <made-on-a-macintosh-1032914-28807@usenet.l1t.lt> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3B6A6E8A.7D254E26@isltd.insignia.com

Hi,

- followup ("Christian Bau" <christian.bau@isltd.insignia.com>)

>> > Since this thread is about comparing C or C++ and Ada: If the
>> > software had been written in C, C++ or Java, the result would have
>> > been a completely wrong integer result. For example, casting a value
>> > of 40000.0 to a 16 bit signed int will give a strange result of
>> > -25536. (In Java, this is defined behaviour. In C or C++ this might
>> > be undefined or implementation defined; in practice the result will
>> > most likely be -25536).
>> 
>> Nowhere in the report it says "cast". There are appropriate functions
>> in C and family for conversions of floating point values to integers.
> 
> In C, the operation of converting a floating point value to a value of
> integral type is called a "cast". If they call it different in Ada I
> couldn't care less. I would say this demonstrates that you have a very
> limited ability of abstraction.

Says someone who states:

> For example, casting a value of 40000.0 to a 16 bit signed int will give
> a strange result of -25536.

In C, the operation of explicitly coercing a floating point value into a
value of an integral type is called a cast. The result is undefined if the
value is outside of the range of the result type. Undefined *includes* an
"operand error", and it also allows for demons to fly out of your nose.
There really is no difference between Ada and C here.

In C, there are also conversion functions (such as lrint) that *can do*
range checking. The report does *not* contain any hint as to the ada
version of a cast being used. It could as well have been the ada version
of such a function.

>> You didn't even read the report. The decision that an overflow could
>> not happen was correct, as the code was written for the Ariane 4 where
>> values that would cause the conversion to overflow are indeed
>> impossible. The problem was that this fact was somehow lost and nobody
>> remembered it when they decided to use the same code for the Ariane 5.
> 
> This is plain stupid. If code for Ariane 4 is used on Ariane 5, and an
> assumption that was true on Ariane 4 is false on Ariane 5, then this is
> assumption is false. The assumption that no overflow could happen became
> wrong when the code was reused.

The assumption that no overflow could happen with Ariane 4 is still true,
even if Ariane 5 was lost due to it. The program was never meant to
control Ariane 5. The mistake was not the assumption that no overflow
could happen but the decision to use the software for a job it was never
meant to do.

>> > (This is assuming that the results were indeed used. If there is
>> > functionality in a rocket that is not related to its performance,
>> > like sending data to the ground, and a malfunction in this is
>> > detected, then ignoring that malfunction might be the better action).

> I think you must be deliberately trying to misunderstand what I wrote.
> Yes, if an overflow check makes it impossible to ever use an incorrect
> results then incorrect results will not be used. The question is: Would
> the result have been used if an overflow had not been detected?

I believe you must be misunderstanding yourself. This is a meaningless
question if the hardware or the implementation of the ada language makes it
impossible not to detect overflow errors, as is the case here.

Also, ignoring *any* malfunction is not a good choice. You can do that on
a personal computer, but not on a rocket where *any* malfunction can mean
that something is seriously messed up. Shuting down a malfunctioning
subsystem is the *only* choice here.


Daniel

-- 
IMO, anyway.
end  message by (Daniel Fischer <dan@gueldenland.de>)
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Thread overview: 876+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-30  7:08 How to make Ada a dominant language Russ
2001-07-30  8:36 ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 12:41   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 12:52     ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 13:24       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 15:47         ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 23:13         ` Gary Scott
2001-07-31  1:07         ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-30 15:38       ` Darren New
2001-07-31  8:31       ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-30 12:52     ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 13:38       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 13:43         ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 15:08           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 15:02             ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 15:52               ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 17:19                 ` Darren New
2001-07-31  7:35                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-02  1:36                   ` David Starner
2001-08-02  8:01                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02  8:11                       ` David Starner
2001-08-02 12:11                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 14:47                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-02 16:10                       ` Darren New
2001-08-02 19:30                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 19:04                           ` Darren New
2001-08-02 20:52                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 16:09                     ` Darren New
2001-08-02 23:39                     ` bruns
2001-08-03  7:28                       ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-03 18:53                         ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-03 13:59                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03  3:40                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 16:21               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 16:19                 ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 16:33                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-30 18:33                   ` Stefan Nobis
2001-07-30 21:26                     ` Milan Mancel
2001-07-31  3:37                       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31 20:36                         ` Milan Mancel
2001-07-31 14:37                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-31 14:56                         ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-31 15:07                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01  0:54                         ` David Bolen
2001-08-01 13:17                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 22:15                             ` David Bolen
2001-08-01  9:11                         ` Milan Mancel
2001-08-01 12:06                           ` Larry Hazel
2001-08-01 13:41                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 15:55                               ` Larry Hazel
2001-08-01 16:56                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 19:18                                   ` Ed Falis
2001-08-01 13:41                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 13:28                           ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 15:17                           ` Scott Ingram
2001-07-31  3:06                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31  4:10                   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  5:05                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-30 17:19               ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-31  3:46                 ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  5:08                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31  7:09                   ` Pascal Obry
2001-07-31 14:17                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-07-30 17:33               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-31  4:01                 ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31 17:31                   ` Brian Rogoff
2001-07-30 17:51               ` file13
2001-07-31 14:51                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-30 22:35               ` Attributes of a development which require Ada (Was Re: How to make Ada a dominant language) Hambut
2001-07-31  6:16               ` How to make Ada a dominant language Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-31  9:32       ` Philip Anderson
2001-07-31 10:16         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-08-02 20:35       ` Barry Kelly
2001-08-03  0:07         ` Keith Thompson
2001-08-03  6:35         ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-08-16  5:19       ` David Thompson
2001-07-30 18:22     ` Stefan Nobis
2001-07-31  0:53     ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-31  3:24       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  6:47         ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-31  7:10           ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  7:22             ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-31  7:38             ` Keith Thompson
2001-07-31  8:20             ` Martin Dowie
2001-07-31 15:32           ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-31 11:16         ` David Gillon
2001-08-01  1:25         ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01  4:25           ` Russ
2001-08-01  8:22             ` MALAISE Pascal
2001-08-01  9:34             ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 10:32               ` AG
2001-08-01 15:55                 ` Russ
2001-08-01 16:50                   ` chris.danx
2001-08-01 15:52               ` Russ
2001-08-01 13:48             ` Stefan Nobis
2001-08-02  8:32               ` Pascal Obry
2001-08-01 10:08         ` AG
2001-07-31  8:29     ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 20:34       ` Keith Thompson
2001-07-31 21:29         ` The concept of := (was How to make Ada a dominant language) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-01  2:29           ` Keith Thompson
2001-08-01  3:27           ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack raj
2001-08-01  4:58             ` Martin Ambuhl
2001-08-01  5:01             ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-01  8:24               ` raj
2001-08-01 12:55                 ` Bart v Ingen Schenau
2001-08-01 18:44               ` Lawrence Foard
2001-08-01 19:58                 ` Matthias Blume
2001-08-01 20:46                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-01 21:21                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 13:44                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-03 23:43                     ` Tom Plunket
2001-08-06  7:11                       ` Dave Adlam
2001-08-02  8:54                 ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03  3:20                   ` Zoltan Somogyi
2001-08-01  8:56             ` Richard Bos
2001-08-01 13:09             ` Mike Smith
2001-08-01 15:32               ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 16:24                 ` Karl Heinz Buchegger
2001-08-07 23:55                   ` Mark Lundquist
2001-08-01 20:36                 ` Micah Cowan
2001-08-01 22:05                   ` Ed Falis
2001-08-01 22:47                     ` Micah Cowan
2001-08-02  3:37                       ` Ed Falis
2001-08-02 13:44                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-07 20:57                       ` Albert van der Horst
2001-08-09  1:25                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-01 22:56                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Markus Mottl
2001-08-01 23:13                     ` Richard Heathfield
2001-08-01 23:18                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-02  4:10                         ` gregm
2001-08-01 23:24                       ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02  0:05                         ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-02  9:13                           ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02 13:44                           ` CBFalconer
2001-08-02  0:32                         ` those who know me have no need of my name
2001-08-02  7:38                         ` Richard Heathfield
2001-08-02  0:20                       ` Darren New
2001-08-02  1:22                       ` Michael Rubenstein
2001-08-02  5:49                       ` Fergus Henderson
2001-08-02  6:44                         ` Chris Kuan
2001-08-03  1:08                           ` Chris Kuan
2001-08-02  8:28                       ` Zoltan Somogyi
2001-08-02 19:05                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-08-02  3:11                     ` Bruce G. Stewart
2001-08-02  3:21                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-02  3:24                         ` David Starner
2001-08-02  6:53                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-02  9:19                       ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02  7:54                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 17:32               ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 11:56                 ` Beelsebob
2001-08-02 12:15                   ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-02 13:06                   ` Charles Krug
2001-08-02 14:12                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 16:51                   ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 19:21                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-03  0:44                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Mike Silva
2001-08-01 17:49               ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-01 18:11                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 18:40                   ` Chris Torek
2001-08-01 20:04                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 21:27                       ` Chris Torek
2001-08-02  0:15                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-12-27 12:16                           ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-02 14:26                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 19:29                           ` CBFalconer
2001-08-01 23:15                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02  8:25                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-02 12:01                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 21:52                           ` Chris Torek
2001-08-03  6:05                             ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03  6:17                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-03 14:36                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 17:55                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-03 18:01                                     ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-03 18:23                                     ` Marc A. Criley
2001-08-05  3:38                                     ` AG
2001-08-13 20:23                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-03 18:15                                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 19:09                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 20:26                                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 21:54                                     ` Tore Lund
2001-08-06  3:35                                       ` Keith Thompson
2001-08-06 23:36                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-06  9:30                                       ` kers
2001-08-03 11:24                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 14:41                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 13:51                                   ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 16:07                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-07 15:12                                     ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 15:08                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03  0:34                           ` Mike Silva
2001-08-01 21:40                     ` Florian Weimer
     [not found]                     ` <GHEt6A.BzD@approve.se>
2001-08-01 22:12                       ` Ed Falis
     [not found]                         ` <GHFDJp.G7q@approve.se>
2001-08-02  7:41                           ` Preben Randhol
     [not found]                             ` <GHGA3t.Izq@approve.se>
2001-08-02 17:30                               ` David Gillon
2001-08-02 17:37                               ` Marin David Condic
     [not found]                                 ` <GHGGJH.JpI@approve.se>
2001-08-02 20:11                                   ` Darren New
2001-08-02 20:37                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 10:15                                     ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-03 14:15                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 14:55                                         ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-03 14:44                                       ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 15:02                                         ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-03 15:38                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 17:00                                       ` Mike Silva
2001-08-03 17:21                                         ` Mike Williams
2001-08-05 21:39                                           ` Mike Silva
2001-08-06 14:32                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 20:55                                   ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 21:56                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-02 17:38                               ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-02 17:54                                 ` Ruslan Abdikeev
2001-08-02 18:01                               ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 19:24                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 18:44                                 ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-03  7:53                                   ` Christian Bau
2001-08-03  8:02                                     ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-03  9:27                                       ` Christian Bau
2001-08-03 10:01                                         ` Daniel Fischer [this message]
2001-08-03 14:46                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 14:41                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-04 14:11                                       ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-06 14:42                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 19:05                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-02 19:29                               ` CBFalconer
2001-08-02 19:25                             ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-03  3:11                               ` Mike Silva
2001-08-04  0:26                                 ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-04  2:50                                   ` James Rogers
2001-08-04 14:07                                     ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-04 14:56                                       ` James Rogers
2001-08-05 12:44                                         ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-06  0:22                                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-06 13:51                                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 16:23                                           ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 14:13                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 16:17                                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-06 14:17                                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 14:03                                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 15:02                                           ` Yoann Padioleau
2001-08-06 15:17                                             ` Matthias Blume
2001-08-06 16:42                                             ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-06 16:35                                         ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-07 19:43                                         ` David Lee Lambert
2001-08-07 20:15                                           ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-05 22:15                                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Mike Silva
2001-08-06 11:44                                   ` David Gillon
2001-08-06 14:59                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-06 18:12                                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-06 19:35                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 13:02                           ` Ed Falis
2001-08-02 15:24                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 16:02                             ` Reivilo Snuved
2001-08-01 18:43                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-01 21:07                     ` Mike Smith
2001-08-01 22:12                       ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-08-01 22:40                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-01 23:00                           ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-08-02  5:00                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-02 15:53                               ` Brian Rogoff
2001-08-02  8:25                             ` Richard Bos
2001-08-02 10:09                               ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-03  7:26                                 ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 12:06                                   ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-02 17:30                               ` CBFalconer
2001-08-05  8:06                                 ` Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2001-08-02  6:55                           ` Ketil Z Malde
2001-08-01 22:44                       ` Dan Cross
2001-08-01 23:29                         ` Aaron Denney
2001-08-02  2:19                         ` Mike Smith
2001-08-02  8:17                           ` Bill Godfrey
2001-08-02 10:14                           ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-02 19:23                             ` Tor Rustad
2001-08-03  8:05                               ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-02 15:37                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 17:25                             ` David Gillon
2001-08-02 15:50                           ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03  6:26                             ` Mike Williams
2001-08-03 14:07                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 14:31                               ` Dan Cross
     [not found]                       ` <dale-8EE262.08123502082001@mec2. <Xz%97.2632$B37.106689@news1.rdc1.bc.home.com>
2001-08-01 22:58                         ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02  8:25                           ` Richard Bos
2001-08-02  9:25                             ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-02 16:10                             ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 16:20                               ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-02 16:42                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 17:29                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-02 18:04                                     ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-02 18:06                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-02 22:58                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-03  8:25                                     ` CBFalconer
2001-08-06 21:26                                     ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07  0:07                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  0:15                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07  3:04                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  3:18                                             ` Francois Labreque
2001-08-07  4:10                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  5:14                                             ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 12:04                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 17:16                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07 11:53                                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 16:12                                             ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 17:28                                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07 17:56                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 18:36                                                 ` David Starner
2001-08-07 21:14                                                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-08  7:38                                                     ` David Starner
2001-08-07 21:49                                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08  3:39                                                     ` David Starner
2001-08-08 10:40                                                   ` A Directory package for Ada (was: How Ada could have prevented) Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 11:57                                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07 22:44                                           ` James Rogers
2001-08-08  4:04                                             ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-08 10:00                                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-08 21:55                                             ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-08 23:13                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-09 13:20                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-08  2:59                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08  4:03                                             ` David Bolen
2001-08-08  4:56                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08 23:49                                                 ` David Bolen
2001-08-09  5:12                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 13:10                                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 23:57                                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 13:35                                                         ` Data portability with streams Ted Dennison
2001-08-10 17:13                                                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-10 19:51                                                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-08 22:18                                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09  5:30                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 18:10                                                 ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10  0:05                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-14 12:51                                                 ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-14 13:32                                                   ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-14 14:39                                                   ` Larry Hazel
2001-08-14 16:14                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-14 16:26                                                     ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-15 13:36                                                     ` Martin
2001-08-15 16:47                                                       ` Ray Blaak
2001-08-14 16:15                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16  5:16                                                 ` David Thompson
2001-08-16 13:19                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 13:25                                                     ` Richard Bos
2001-08-16 13:44                                                     ` Ian Wild
2001-08-16 17:32                                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 17:53                                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-16 18:52                                                           ` David C. Hoos
2001-08-16 20:40                                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 18:23                                                         ` Ron Natalie
2001-08-16 20:41                                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 21:14                                                             ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-16 21:33                                                               ` Ron Natalie
2001-08-17 18:10                                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-20  8:22                                                                   ` Ian Wild
2001-08-16 21:34                                                               ` Karthik Gurusamy
2001-08-16 21:36                                                                 ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-16 17:31                                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-16 19:28                                                       ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-19 18:14                                                       ` Michael Rubenstein
2001-08-16 18:28                                                     ` Clark S. Cox III
     [not found]                                                     ` <urTe7.71343$B37.16278 <3B7C1EF2.4DF3C7A5@gsde.hou.us.ray.com>
2001-08-16 21:49                                                       ` Greg Comeau
2001-08-16 22:38                                                         ` Samuel T. Harris
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2001-08-16 22:23                                                       ` Greg Comeau
2001-08-13 20:54                                         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-07 16:20                                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07 17:49                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08  3:14                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08 22:34                                           ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09  5:36                                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 18:43                                               ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10  0:23                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 12:29                                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10 15:01                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11  9:00                                                       ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-11 18:19                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 14:18                                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 15:48                                               ` Clark S. Cox III
2001-08-09 16:52                                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 17:34                                                   ` Clark S. Cox III
2001-08-09 19:23                                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-13 21:59                                                     ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-20 13:39                                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23 17:17                                                         ` Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-27  1:49                                                         ` simple CPUs, was " tmoran
2001-08-27 11:08                                                           ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-27 13:53                                                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 14:44                                                             ` Gary Scott
2001-08-27 18:49                                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 18:46                                                             ` tmoran
2001-08-27 19:10                                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 23:33                                                                 ` William Dale
2001-08-28 13:38                                                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-09 20:26                                                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-09 21:03                                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 19:07                                               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10  1:05                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 12:45                                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10 15:05                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11  9:05                                                       ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-11 19:49                                                         ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-08-14 13:09                                                   ` Bertrand Augereau
2001-08-17  0:46                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-17  1:53                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17  9:29                                                         ` pete
2001-08-17 10:23                                                           ` Richard Bos
2001-08-17 13:46                                                             ` pete
2001-08-17 14:33                                                             ` pete
2001-08-17 20:12                                                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-20  7:02                                                             ` pete
2001-08-20 16:39                                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17  1:57                                                       ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-17  2:27                                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17  3:42                                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-17  7:33                                                             ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-17 13:46                                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-17 20:08                                                                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-18  5:16                                                                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-18 22:27                                                                     ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-29  3:47                                                                       ` David Thompson
2001-08-29 16:00                                                                         ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-19 21:19                                                                 ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-17 16:40                                                               ` Ian
2001-08-17 14:05                                                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-17 22:15                                                           ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-17 17:11                                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Matthew Austern
2001-08-10 14:16                                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03  7:26                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-03 15:05                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 18:06                                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-03 19:05                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-03 19:37                                     ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-04  8:00                                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-06 16:48                                         ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-06 16:56                                           ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-06 17:16                                             ` Gerhard Häring
2001-08-06 17:34                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-06 19:30                                                 ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-06 19:42                                                   ` Ben Pfaff
2001-08-06 22:52                                                     ` Preben Randhol
     [not found]                                               ` <QyAb7.24745$B37.4 <87zo9dug9p.fsf@pfaffben.user.msu.edu>
2001-08-06 21:08                                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 21:28                                                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 17:19                                             ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-06 19:19                                               ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-07  0:10                                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07  1:09                                               ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-07  3:06                                                 ` James Rogers
2001-08-07  6:11                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 23:22                                                     ` James Rogers
2001-08-08  0:25                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08 14:03                                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-07  7:25                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-07 23:24                                                     ` James Rogers
2001-08-07 11:05                                                   ` Daniel Fischer
2001-08-07 23:20                                                   ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-07 23:32                                                     ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-08  4:52                                                     ` James Rogers
2001-08-08  5:31                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08  5:36                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08 12:26                                                         ` James Rogers
2001-08-08 14:47                                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-08  9:27                                                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-08-08 23:08                                                       ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-07  3:09                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07 22:01                                                   ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-08  4:18                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08  5:00                                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-08  5:16                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-08 23:12                                                       ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-08 23:44                                                         ` Ed Falis
2001-08-09  0:19                                                           ` Chris Wolfe
2001-08-09  1:19                                                             ` Ed Falis
2001-08-09  3:15                                                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-09  5:48                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 14:48                                                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-09 23:55                                                           ` Martin Ambuhl
2001-08-14 12:25                                                           ` cppwiz
2001-08-14 15:39                                                           ` Stanley R. Allen
2001-08-07  7:09                                               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Chris Torek
2001-08-08  4:25                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-07 12:06                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-07 12:42                                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-09 15:25                                               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                               ` <3B6F3FAE.B9B9FOrganization: LJK Software <c78BbJ9nURZD@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-09 17:24                                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 19:56                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Ted Dennison
2001-08-06 15:21                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-06 10:04                                   ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 14:23                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 14:03                                       ` Richard Bos
2001-08-06 15:42                                         ` Dan Cross
2001-08-06 18:55                               ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-06 21:54                                 ` Dan Cross
2001-08-07 11:39                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07 21:58                                     ` Dan Cross
2001-08-07 22:51                                       ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-08 14:12                                         ` Dan Cross
2001-08-08 21:36                                           ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09  5:54                                             ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 19:34                                               ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-09 23:29                                                 ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-10  0:46                                                   ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-10 12:46                                                     ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-10 15:53                                                       ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-10 12:04                                                   ` Joona I Palaste
2001-08-10  1:23                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-10 14:33                                                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-10 15:32                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11  3:56                                                       ` David Starner
2001-08-11 14:10                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-11 14:27                                                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-09 15:57                                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Marin David Condic
2001-08-09 19:42                                               ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-09 20:05                                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-10  6:47                                                   ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-10  7:14                                                   ` Ketil Z Malde
2001-08-09 20:09                                                 ` Mark Wilden
2001-08-09 20:16                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-10  5:16                                               ` Nicholas James NETHERCOTE
2001-08-10  6:37                                               ` Richard Heathfield
2001-08-10 13:40                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-10 17:16                                                   ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-13  9:27                                                     ` Ulf Wiger
2001-08-10  8:59                                               ` Andreas Rossberg
2001-08-12  2:58                                             ` AG
2001-08-06 22:52                                 ` Ed Falis
2001-08-07 13:51                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 22:28                                   ` Bart.Vanhauwaert
2001-08-07 23:06                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07 19:39                                 ` Fergus Henderson
2001-08-01 19:08                   ` tmoran
2001-08-01 21:41                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-01 23:34                       ` tmoran
2001-08-02  1:29                         ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-02  3:11                           ` tmoran
2001-08-03 17:54                             ` Dale Pontius
2001-08-05  8:23                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-05  8:30                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-02 21:06                           ` chris.danx
2001-08-03 10:20                             ` chris.danx
2001-08-03 14:00                             ` Evil browser-specific web sites (was: " Ted Dennison
2001-08-03 15:27                               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-03 20:51                               ` chris.danx
2001-08-01 22:42                 ` Hartmann Schaffer
2001-08-02  1:09                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-04 18:36                 ` David Lee Lambert
2001-08-04 21:05                   ` David Wagner
2001-08-05  3:00                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial ofservice attack Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-05  6:00                   ` CBFalconer
2001-08-06 15:29                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-07  2:50                       ` Mike Silva
2001-08-05  8:15                   ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk
2001-08-05  9:36                   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-07 14:34             ` Attila Feher
2001-08-08 19:16               ` Simon Wright
2001-08-12  6:22                 ` How a modern programming language " raj
2001-08-12  7:41             ` How Ada " Will
2001-08-12 17:38               ` Joona I Palaste
2001-08-12 18:22                 ` Rajat Datta
2001-08-12 18:52                 ` Dillo
2001-08-12 19:19               ` Gautier
2001-08-12 21:57                 ` Tore Lund
2001-08-12 20:38               ` Tim Robinson
2001-08-12 22:02                 ` tmoran
2001-08-16  1:53                 ` Tony Gair
2001-08-16 13:29                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-16 20:52                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-16 21:37                       ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Marin David Condic
2001-08-17 14:25                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-17 16:36                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-08-17 17:19                           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-17 18:04                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Ted Dennison
2001-08-17 18:09                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-18  2:56                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-18  7:32                             ` David Starner
2001-08-19  6:53                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2001-08-19 17:00                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-20 14:00                               ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Ted Dennison
2001-08-20 14:24                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-20 23:24                                   ` Didier Utheza
2001-08-21 13:43                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-21 15:05                                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-21 15:29                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-21 17:03                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-21 22:03                                             ` Didier Utheza
2001-08-22 13:44                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 16:30                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 17:03                                                   ` Progress on AdaOS Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 18:21                                                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 19:50                                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 18:23                                                     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 19:54                                                       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23  3:42                                                         ` David Starner
2001-08-23 17:17                                                           ` Open Source Approach (was Progress on AdaOS) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-24  1:04                                                             ` Gerhard Häring
2001-08-24 15:27                                                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-23 18:36                                                           ` Progress on AdaOS Marin David Condic
2001-08-24  1:03                                                             ` David Starner
2001-08-24 13:47                                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-24 14:42                                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-24 16:25                                                                 ` Gary Scott
2001-08-24 16:53                                                                   ` O/S Research is Dead? (was Progress on AdaOS) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-24 22:01                                                                   ` Progress on AdaOS David Starner
2001-08-25 17:19                                                                     ` Gary Scott
2001-08-26  7:51                                                                       ` David Starner
2001-08-22 17:17                                                   ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Preben Randhol
2001-08-22 17:45                                                     ` Didier Utheza
2001-08-22 19:08                                                       ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-22 18:32                                             ` Progress on AdaOS Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.A41.4.10.Organization: LJK Software <Ypd7dD0WS5sw@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-22 20:00                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-24 20:34                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-25  1:31                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-25 17:11                                               ` David Starner
2001-08-25 19:34                                                 ` Gary Scott
2001-08-25 20:00                                                   ` Gary Scott
2001-08-26  7:59                                                   ` David Starner
2001-08-26 11:47                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-26 16:31                                               ` David Starner
2001-08-27  7:46                                                 ` Frédéric Valdes
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.A41.4.10.Organization: LJK Software <uBW9YP9YCoMO@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-27 13:14                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 17:30                                                 ` David Starner
2001-08-27 21:08                                                   ` Darren New
2001-08-28  1:51                                                     ` David Starner
2001-08-28 16:13                                                       ` Darren New
2001-08-29  3:13                                                         ` David Starner
2001-08-29 16:42                                                           ` Darren New
2001-08-30  6:23                                                             ` David Starner
2001-08-30 16:37                                                               ` Darren New
2001-08-31 16:09                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-31 18:42                                                                   ` M. A. Alves
2001-08-31 17:58                                                                     ` Darren New
2001-08-31 19:31                                                                       ` M. A. Alves
2001-08-31 19:54                                                                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-31 20:00                                                                         ` Darren New
2001-09-01  2:31                                                                           ` David Starner
2001-09-02 23:02                                                                             ` Darren New
2001-09-03 18:36                                                                               ` Ada OS talk (was: Progress on AdaOS) M. A. Alves
2001-09-03 18:11                                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-09-03 20:12                                                                                   ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-04 13:02                                                                                     ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 14:34                                                                                       ` Gary Scott
2001-09-04 19:44                                                                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 21:00                                                                                           ` Gary Scott
2001-09-06 13:52                                                                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-04 17:13                                                                                       ` Darren New
2001-09-04 18:34                                                                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-05  7:14                                                                                         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2001-09-04 21:28                                                                                       ` David Starner
2001-09-05  5:06                                                                                         ` Brian Catlin
2001-09-06 13:59                                                                                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-06 21:00                                                                                           ` David Starner
2001-09-07 14:24                                                                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-10  3:20                                                                                               ` Michael Garrett
2001-09-10 12:37                                                                                                 ` RTEMS and Ada, Was: " Simon Clubley
2001-09-10 19:29                                                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2001-09-10 20:25                                                                                                     ` Simon Clubley
2001-09-10 20:56                                                                                                   ` Joel Sherrill
2001-09-10 13:57                                                                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-09-10 20:39                                                                                                   ` Joel Sherrill
2001-09-11  4:04                                                                                                     ` Michael Garrett
2001-09-10  3:55                                                                                               ` David Starner
2001-09-04 17:09                                                                                     ` Darren New
2001-09-01 19:21                                                                       ` Progress on AdaOS Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-02  1:09                                                                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2001-09-02 10:49                                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-03  6:39                                                                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-09-05  7:28                                                                           ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-09-03 19:16                                                                         ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-05  7:47                                                                           ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-09-05 16:37                                                                             ` Darren New
2001-09-06 12:33                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-06 16:35                                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-09-07  7:49                                                                                   ` Dmitry Kazakov
2001-09-07 15:58                                                                                     ` Darren New
2001-09-08 12:02                                                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-09  2:06                                                                                         ` Darren New
2001-09-09  7:46                                                                                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-09-09 18:35                                                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-09 20:35                                                                                             ` Darren New
2001-09-10 17:24                                                                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2001-09-10 18:16                                                                                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-31 23:51                                                                     ` Brian Catlin
2001-09-01 23:46                                                                     ` Keith Thompson
2001-09-03 18:54                                                                       ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-09  0:43                                                                       ` David Thompson
2001-09-10 10:53                                                                         ` M. A. Alves
2001-09-10 18:11                                                                           ` David Starner
2001-09-11 10:45                                                                             ` M. A. Alves
2001-08-29 15:56                                                     ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-28 11:07                                                 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
     [not found]                                             ` <Pine.A41.4.10.Organization: LJK Software <QzMRgPYPkyBy@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-27 13:27                                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-27 23:21                                                 ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-08-28 13:22                                                   ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-29  8:19                                                     ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-08-29 14:50                                                       ` Tony Gair
2001-08-29 15:31                                                         ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-09-09 20:34                                                       ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-27 23:30                                             ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                             ` <uBW9YP9YCoMO@eOrganization: LJK Software <sy8cXTZt45T9@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-08-28 15:48                                               ` Steffen Huber
2001-08-21 21:21                                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red David Starner
2001-08-22 14:03                                             ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 16:42                                               ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 17:22                                                 ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-22 21:09                                                 ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23  8:50                                                 ` Steinar Knutsen
2001-08-22 22:15                                               ` David Starner
2001-08-23 17:29                                                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-21 20:50                                         ` David Starner
2001-08-22  1:50                                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 13:50                                             ` OT: Progress on AdaOS David Starner
2001-08-21 15:52                           ` Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Darren New
2001-08-13 13:28               ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Ted Dennison
2001-08-13 15:31               ` Martin Dowie
2001-08-22  6:17               ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-22  9:04                 ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-22  9:54                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-22 10:10                     ` Richard Bos
2001-08-22 11:17                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-22 12:35                         ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 12:45                         ` Richard Bos
2001-08-22 13:31                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 18:06                           ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-22 18:50                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 22:10                               ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 13:43                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-23 16:03                                   ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 16:10                                     ` Gary Scott
2001-08-23 18:01                                       ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 16:52                                     ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-23 17:56                                       ` Adam Fineman
2001-08-23 21:21                                       ` Tore Lund
2001-08-24 17:28                                         ` QNX (was Re: How Ada could have prevented ...) Ray Blaak
2001-08-23 18:17                                     ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 12:18                       ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 13:33                         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 20:29                           ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 21:28                             ` OT: US global politics (was: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack.) Ted Dennison
2001-08-23  9:41                               ` OT: US global politics Markus Mottl
2001-08-23  4:37                             ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Daniel C. Wang
2001-08-22 13:39                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-23  6:26                       ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-23 12:57                         ` Vincent Marciante
2001-08-23 16:56                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 10:24                   ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 12:34                     ` Joachim Durchholz
2001-08-22 12:47                       ` Markus Mottl
2001-08-22 14:47                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 16:13                         ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-22 14:33                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 18:28                       ` Jerry Petrey
2001-08-22 19:35                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Ted Dennison
2001-08-23  6:43                           ` Richard Riehle
2001-08-27  1:49                             ` tmoran
2001-08-22 20:04                       ` Garry Hodgson
2001-08-22 20:39                       ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Markus Mottl
     [not found]                       ` <3B83F9D6.73CB3E02@west.rayt <3B84103F.30409430@sage.att.com>
2001-08-22 22:26                         ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-25 22:44                       ` How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack Stefan Skoglund
2001-08-22 17:47                     ` Subtle Bugs, kudos Ada (was How Ada ...Red Code ...) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-22 18:55                       ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-22 20:25                         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-23  3:21                         ` David Starner
2001-08-22 20:34                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-22 21:57                         ` Dale Stanbrough
2001-08-23  1:56                         ` Joe Maun
2001-08-26  1:10                           ` Igor Tandetnik
2001-08-26  5:16                             ` pete
2001-08-26 15:02                               ` Igor Tandetnik
2001-08-27  1:52                                 ` Joe Maun
2001-08-27  3:13                                   ` Igor Tandetnik
2001-08-27  2:59                                 ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-26  9:13                           ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-27  1:53                             ` Joe Maun
2001-08-27 11:05                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-27 19:36                                 ` Joe Maun
2001-08-27 20:49                                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-28  3:34                                     ` Joe Maun
2001-08-28  4:50                                       ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 17:14                                         ` Joe Maun
2001-08-28 19:00                                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 19:13                                             ` Joe Maun
2001-08-28 20:47                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 20:49                                               ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-28 23:18                                                 ` Joe Maun
2001-08-29  2:17                                                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-29  2:10                                                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-29  2:14                                               ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-29 17:31                                               ` B.Gaffney
2001-08-29 18:19                                                 ` Darren New
2001-08-23  3:17                         ` David Starner
2001-08-23  5:11                           ` Kaz Kylheku
2001-08-23  9:12                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2001-08-23  9:42                           ` Richard Bos
2001-08-23 12:00                             ` James Rogers
2001-08-23 14:08                               ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-23 13:58                             ` Samuel T. Harris
2001-08-23 14:46                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-23 14:21                               ` Richard Bos
2001-08-23 15:15                             ` David Starner
2001-08-23 20:54                               ` CBFalconer
2001-08-23 17:02                             ` Richard Riehle
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2001-08-23 21:21                           ` Dan Cross
2001-08-24  0:40                             ` CBFalconer
2001-07-30  8:36 ` How to make Ada a dominant language Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 11:18   ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-30 12:01     ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 12:56       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  3:17         ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-30 12:29     ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 13:11       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 15:45         ` Darren New
2001-07-30 16:00           ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-30 16:26             ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 16:50               ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-30 17:55               ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-07-30 17:23                 ` Darren New
2001-07-31  8:55                   ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31  9:45                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-07-31  8:53               ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 10:14             ` Philip Anderson
2001-07-31  8:51         ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 16:16           ` Darren New
2001-07-31 16:20             ` Florian Weimer
2001-07-31 16:53               ` Darren New
2001-07-31 17:10                 ` Preben Randhol
2001-07-31 17:28                   ` Darren New
2001-08-01 16:55                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-08-01  0:21                 ` David Bolen
2001-08-01  3:33                   ` David Bolen
2001-07-30 12:49   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-30 13:13     ` Gary Lisyansky
2001-07-30 13:49       ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  1:10         ` Adrian Hoe
2001-07-31  3:28     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-30 15:36 ` Gerhard Häring
2001-07-30 22:58 ` Gary Scott
2001-08-01 10:51   ` AG
2001-08-01 17:10     ` Russ
2001-07-31  2:41 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31  4:24   ` Russ Paielli
2001-07-31  5:18     ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-07-31 10:53     ` Philip Anderson
2001-07-31  8:03 ` Keith Thompson
2001-07-31 11:16   ` Philip Anderson
2001-08-01  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2001-08-01  2:29 ` Russ
2001-08-01  7:10   ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01  7:33     ` Russ
2001-08-01 15:00       ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01 15:58         ` Russ
2001-08-01 17:32           ` Gary Scott
2001-08-01  7:13   ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01 14:09     ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-01 17:55       ` Russ
2001-08-01 18:26         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-02  5:16         ` Semicolons (was: How to make Ada a dominant language) Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-02  8:53         ` How to make Ada a dominant language Stefan Nobis
2001-08-02 10:34         ` AG
2001-08-02 20:35         ` Barry Kelly
2001-08-01  7:19   ` Adrian Hoe
2001-08-01  9:51   ` Preben Randhol
2001-08-01 11:18   ` David Gillon
2001-08-01 16:05     ` Russ
2001-08-02  5:21       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2001-08-01 17:12   ` Scott Ingram
2001-08-01 18:10     ` Russ
2001-08-02 10:34       ` Leif Roar Moldskred
2001-08-07  2:55   ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-07  3:56     ` Darren New
2001-08-07  7:34     ` Russ P.
2001-08-07 21:23       ` Lao Xiao Hai
2001-08-01  2:35 ` Mike Silva
2001-08-01  4:32   ` Russ
2001-08-01  4:56     ` Ed Falis
2001-08-01 10:21       ` AG
2001-08-01  4:23 ` raj
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