From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT GPL is not shareware
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 17:45:55 -0600
Date: 2015-01-07T17:45:55-06:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m8kgfk$n67$1@loke.gir.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: pq0rw.976861$JH1.101473@fx08.iad
"Hubert" <herrdoktor@fumanchu.com> wrote in message
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> I really wish Adacore would offer a license for small businesses that was
> more affordable. I think that would lure more people in than a completely
> free version.
People have been asking AdaCore that since the beginning of GNAT, and they
have said that it doesn't make econonmic sense. The experience of
Aonix/ObjectAda and RRS/Janus/Ada also suggest that. Plus, there was such a
version of GNAT in the late 1990s (I think) created by a third-party
company, and it didn't work, either.
I have to agree with David that there is no low-cost compiler market
anymore. The only market (apparently) is for high-quality support, and that
by its nature is very expensive (because its manpower-dependent).
Even a small business license would need some sort of support and guarantees
(else why pay for it?), and it's hard to make that come out. RRS has always
lost money on its support contracts (they really should cost 5 times as much
as they do). But are small businesses going to fork over $2000 per year?
Randy.
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2015-01-04 19:43 What is the best license to use for open source software? Hubert
2015-01-04 20:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2015-01-04 20:50 ` David Botton
2015-01-04 21:27 ` Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-04 22:13 ` David Botton
2015-01-04 23:14 ` Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-05 0:56 ` David Botton
2015-01-05 1:20 ` Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-05 2:28 ` David Botton
2015-01-05 11:24 ` GNAT GPL is not shareware (was: Re: What is the best license to use for open source software?) Dirk Heinrichs
2015-01-05 11:38 ` David Botton
2015-01-05 12:02 ` GNAT GPL is not shareware Mark Carroll
2015-01-05 13:26 ` David Botton
2015-01-06 0:39 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-01-06 0:48 ` Hubert
2015-01-06 0:54 ` David Botton
2015-01-06 4:02 ` Hubert
2015-01-06 13:26 ` Stefan.Lucks
2015-01-06 14:45 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-01-06 14:51 ` David Botton
2015-01-06 20:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-06 20:59 ` David Botton
2015-01-07 23:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-08 3:22 ` David Botton
2015-01-08 4:21 ` Hubert
2015-01-08 5:17 ` David Botton
2015-01-08 8:52 ` Simon Wright
2015-01-08 11:36 ` gnatmake to lose support for project files, gprbuild instead Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-09 2:05 ` GNAT GPL is not shareware Randy Brukardt
2015-01-09 2:40 ` Paul Rubin
2015-01-09 3:42 ` David Botton
2015-01-09 6:50 ` Paul Rubin
2015-01-09 17:17 ` Mark Carroll
2015-01-09 20:08 ` David Botton
2015-01-10 12:53 ` Brian Drummond
2015-01-10 2:06 ` Simon Clubley
2015-01-09 3:40 ` David Botton
2015-01-09 9:25 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-01-06 15:36 ` G.B.
2015-01-06 17:14 ` David Botton
2015-01-06 14:46 ` David Botton
2015-01-06 15:09 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-06 17:37 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-06 17:46 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-06 20:52 ` Shark8
2015-01-06 21:15 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-06 21:46 ` Shark8
2015-01-07 11:00 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 12:23 ` sbelmont700
2015-01-07 13:03 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 13:46 ` sbelmont700
2015-01-07 14:16 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 22:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-07 13:19 ` Thomas Løcke
2015-01-07 16:32 ` Shark8
2015-01-07 17:28 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 19:04 ` Shark8
2015-01-07 22:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-07 19:24 ` Shark8
2015-01-07 21:45 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 17:33 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 17:39 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 22:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-07 23:02 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-07 23:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-08 8:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-01-08 10:55 ` G.B.
2015-01-08 12:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-01-08 14:17 ` G.B.
2015-01-08 16:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-01-09 13:47 ` G.B.
2015-01-09 22:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-09 23:39 ` Shark8
2015-01-12 23:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-13 9:00 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-01-13 15:51 ` Robert A Duff
2015-01-13 17:46 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-01-13 21:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-14 8:47 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-01-14 16:22 ` Robert A Duff
2015-01-14 17:45 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-01-14 23:43 ` Robert A Duff
2015-01-15 9:31 ` J-P. Rosen
2015-01-15 14:24 ` G.B.
2015-01-15 20:24 ` David Botton
2015-01-15 21:10 ` Simon Wright
2015-01-16 0:35 ` David Botton
2015-01-16 0:45 ` David Botton
2015-01-10 7:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-01-12 11:40 ` G.B.
2015-01-12 13:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-01-12 14:52 ` G.B.
2015-01-12 15:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-01-13 0:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-12 23:52 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-09 2:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-08 18:46 ` Shark8
2015-01-08 20:51 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-09 2:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-09 14:11 ` G.B.
2015-01-09 21:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-09 21:47 ` Shark8
2015-01-09 22:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-09 23:36 ` Shark8
2015-01-12 23:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-07 9:15 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-01-09 10:27 ` Arie van Wingerden
2015-01-09 10:58 ` Arie van Wingerden
2015-01-09 16:39 ` Pascal Obry
2015-01-10 17:33 ` Arie van Wingerden
2015-01-10 17:44 ` Pascal Obry
2015-01-11 1:09 ` David Botton
2015-01-11 11:39 ` Arie van Wingerden
2015-01-11 17:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-06 18:45 ` Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-05 18:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2015-01-05 13:40 ` G.B.
2015-01-05 13:59 ` Brad Moore
2015-01-05 14:49 ` G.B.
2015-01-05 15:11 ` David Botton
2015-01-06 18:43 ` Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-06 19:42 ` David Botton
2015-01-06 20:22 ` Ludovic Brenta
2015-01-07 1:59 ` Hubert
2015-01-07 9:38 ` Pascal Obry
2015-01-07 10:17 ` Mark Carroll
2015-01-07 10:27 ` Pascal Obry
2015-01-07 12:44 ` David Botton
2015-01-07 15:39 ` Dirk Heinrichs
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2015-01-08 11:06 ` G.B.
2015-01-05 18:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2015-01-06 0:44 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2015-01-29 12:58 ` Lucretia
2015-01-29 14:25 ` Jedi Tek'Unum
2015-01-30 11:20 ` Brian Drummond
2015-01-29 19:12 ` Jeffrey Carter
2015-01-29 20:57 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-30 16:48 ` Jedi Tek'Unum
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2015-01-31 8:16 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2015-01-31 15:38 ` Jedi Tek'Unum
2015-02-02 20:44 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-02-02 22:06 ` David Botton
2015-02-03 20:14 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-02-04 0:09 ` David Botton
2015-02-04 7:27 ` Pascal Obry
2015-02-04 8:00 ` Mark Carroll
2015-02-04 8:38 ` Pascal Obry
2015-02-04 12:27 ` G.B.
2015-02-04 12:48 ` David Botton
2015-02-04 17:03 ` Björn Lundin
2015-02-04 10:15 ` Simon Wright
2015-02-04 12:30 ` David Botton
2015-02-02 22:13 ` Björn Lundin
2015-02-02 23:03 ` Jedi Tek'Unum
2015-02-03 20:36 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-02-03 22:54 ` Jedi Tek'Unum
2015-02-04 17:42 ` Björn Lundin
2015-02-04 19:41 ` Simon Wright
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2015-02-05 9:00 ` Simon Wright
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2015-02-05 9:06 ` Simon Wright
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2015-02-04 0:20 ` David Botton
2015-02-04 21:20 ` Randy Brukardt
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2015-02-02 12:06 ` Marius Amado-Alves
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2015-01-30 12:10 ` G.B.
2015-01-30 12:12 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-30 13:50 ` Simon Wright
2015-01-30 15:48 ` Björn Lundin
2015-01-30 17:13 ` Jeffrey Carter
2015-01-30 17:34 ` Simon Wright
2015-01-30 18:21 ` Jeffrey Carter
2015-01-30 18:49 ` Simon Wright
2015-01-30 19:46 ` Randy Brukardt
2015-01-31 9:02 ` Simon Wright
2015-02-01 21:17 ` Containers on small systems (Was: GNAT GPL is not shareware) Simon Wright
2015-02-05 9:40 ` Containers on small systems Simon Wright
2015-02-06 21:54 ` Simon Wright
2015-02-18 22:25 ` Simon Wright
2015-01-31 11:04 ` GNAT GPL is not shareware Brian Drummond
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2015-01-05 20:45 ` David Botton
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2015-01-27 6:18 ` Shark8
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2015-01-09 21:58 GNAT GPL is not shareware Randy Brukardt
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