From: Jeffrey Carter <spam.jrcarter.not@spam.not.acm.org>
Subject: Re: How to get nice with GNAT?
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 09:52:35 -0700
Date: 2014-11-25T09:52:35-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m52c44$mdg$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8f203a9a-6c7c-4614-bc7d-efa65bf10776@googlegroups.com>
On 11/25/2014 08:07 AM, ake.ragnar.dahlgren@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Of course I always listen seriously to Jeff Carter but it's not obvious to me
> that doing "C in Ada" is bad. If I remember correctly Google employees are
> recommended to avoid using exceptions when doing C++. The designers of Google
> Go has gone great lengths to avoid the exception concept as much as possible.
We have decades of experience with C that shows that humans cannot use it safely
on real-world problems. Ignoring error codes is part of that problem. I think
it's clear the C mind set should not be emulated. As to Google and Go, if they
were worth listening to, they'd be using Ada :)
> In addition SPARK forbids usage of exceptions.
SPARK also requires proof that exceptions won't occur, and proof that error
codes are not ignored. C would be a much better language if it required proof
that error codes are not ignored, and arrays are never indexed past their
bounds, and proof ...
--
Jeff Carter
"I was in love with a beautiful blonde once, dear.
She drove me to drink. That's the one thing I'm
indebted to her for."
Never Give a Sucker an Even Break
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2014-11-21 11:41 How to get nice with GNAT? Natasha Kerensikova
2014-11-21 12:42 ` Björn Lundin
2014-11-21 22:55 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-21 23:13 ` Björn Lundin
2014-11-22 9:45 ` How to get nice traceback " Natasha Kerensikova
2014-11-22 9:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-24 22:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-22 10:11 ` How to get nice " gautier_niouzes
2014-11-22 10:40 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-11-22 22:44 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-22 23:24 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-23 18:06 ` Björn Lundin
2014-11-23 16:13 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-23 16:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-11-23 17:02 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-23 17:41 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-23 19:22 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-23 20:49 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-24 3:05 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-24 6:25 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-24 14:39 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-24 17:42 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-25 13:45 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-25 15:07 ` ake.ragnar.dahlgren
2014-11-25 15:51 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-25 16:52 ` Jeffrey Carter [this message]
2014-11-25 19:18 ` G.B.
2014-11-25 20:47 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-25 22:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-25 23:30 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-26 1:25 ` G.B.
2014-11-26 7:35 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-26 11:55 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-26 13:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-26 13:36 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-26 21:27 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-26 22:38 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-27 9:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-27 13:53 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-27 17:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-01 22:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-02 8:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-03 21:41 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-06 12:02 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-08 22:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-12-09 8:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-12-09 23:14 ` Brad Moore
2014-12-09 17:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-27 8:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-26 6:18 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-11-26 7:37 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-26 8:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-25 18:33 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-26 1:27 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2014-11-26 3:29 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-23 18:55 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-23 19:30 ` brbarkstrom
2014-11-23 22:38 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-24 2:47 ` brbarkstrom
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