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Ada-Comment

[Randy Brukardt]

I just noticed that a number of you got auto-deleted from Ada-Comment 
tonight. If you didn't get a bunch of messages from it in the last week 
about random numbers (the last on Tuesday), you've probably got a problem 
getting mail from my systems. (Dmitry and Christoph are among the people 
that got removed from the list).

I changed Internet providers late last month, and that could have broken 
some firewall rules and the like (my mail and web servers are at different 
IPs than before, so old rules may need to be replaced). So you might want to 
check if everything is working on your end, and resubscribe if you still 
want to get list mail.

                      Randy Brukardt, ARG Editor and AdaIC webmaster.

Re: Ada-Comment

[Dmitry A. Kazakov]

On Fri, 14 Nov 2014 00:18:18 -0600, Randy Brukardt wrote:

> I changed Internet providers late last month, and that could have broken 
> some firewall rules and the like (my mail and web servers are at different 
> IPs than before, so old rules may need to be replaced). So you might want to 
> check if everything is working on your end, and resubscribe if you still 
> want to get list mail.

Thanks for the notice.
 
-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

Re: Ada-Comment

[mockturtle]

I read on a IETF mailing list around may 2014 about  problems with mailing lists and some e-mail providers (yahoo? gmail? I am not 100% sure, it has been a long time...) that changed their DMARC policies and this caused the (silent?) rejection of some ML messages.  It has been a long time and I do not remember the details (I can dig, if you want).  Maybe is this related with the Ada-Comment problem?

If this can help: I have a gmail account and I received the thread about random number generation.

Best,

Riccardo

On Friday, November 14, 2014 7:18:21 AM UTC+1, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> I just noticed that a number of you got auto-deleted from Ada-Comment 
> tonight. If you didn't get a bunch of messages from it in the last week 
> about random numbers (the last on Tuesday), you've probably got a problem 
> getting mail from my systems. (Dmitry and Christoph are among the people 
> that got removed from the list).
> 
> I changed Internet providers late last month, and that could have broken 
> some firewall rules and the like (my mail and web servers are at different 
> IPs than before, so old rules may need to be replaced). So you might want to 
> check if everything is working on your end, and resubscribe if you still 
> want to get list mail.
> 
>                       Randy Brukardt, ARG Editor and AdaIC webmaster.

Re: Ada-Comment

[Randy Brukardt]

I haven't seen any lasting problems with the big providers, just smaller 
ones. I get the list mail on my phone, for instance (which is a GMail 
account).

                             Randy.

"mockturtle" <framefritti@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:5194f09b-8898-4bea-a97b-5961ca67beeb@googlegroups.com...
I read on a IETF mailing list around may 2014 about  problems with mailing 
lists and some e-mail providers (yahoo? gmail? I am not 100% sure, it has 
been a long time...) that changed their DMARC policies and this caused the 
(silent?) rejection of some ML messages.  It has been a long time and I do 
not remember the details (I can dig, if you want).  Maybe is this related 
with the Ada-Comment problem?

If this can help: I have a gmail account and I received the thread about 
random number generation.

Best,

Riccardo

On Friday, November 14, 2014 7:18:21 AM UTC+1, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> I just noticed that a number of you got auto-deleted from Ada-Comment
> tonight. If you didn't get a bunch of messages from it in the last week
> about random numbers (the last on Tuesday), you've probably got a problem
> getting mail from my systems. (Dmitry and Christoph are among the people
> that got removed from the list).
>
> I changed Internet providers late last month, and that could have broken
> some firewall rules and the like (my mail and web servers are at different
> IPs than before, so old rules may need to be replaced). So you might want 
> to
> check if everything is working on your end, and resubscribe if you still
> want to get list mail.
>
>                       Randy Brukardt, ARG Editor and AdaIC webmaster.

Re: Ada-Comment

[mockturtle]

The problem was not due to a "bug," but to a change of policy that were made too strict.  At that time I did not pay much attention to that thread, and I still have to dig it, so I am relying on memory and maybe what I am going to say is not 100% exact... 

If I remember correctly the problem was that a message sent via a mailing list was believed to be a spoofed message (maybe because the address in the From: field did not match the ML mailer, or something like that) and some mail servers with said "overstrict" policy rejected the message.  After few rejections, the ML server would assume that the address was not working anymore and it would unsubscribe automatically the user.

This is, more or less, as I remember it.  When I find a timeslot, I am going to dig in the mail archives, so I can be more precise.

Riccardo

On Friday, November 14, 2014 11:13:03 PM UTC+1, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> I haven't seen any lasting problems with the big providers, just smaller 
> ones. I get the list mail on my phone, for instance (which is a GMail 
> account).
> 
>                              Randy.
> 
> "mockturtle" <framefritti@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:5194f09b-8898-4bea-a97b-5961ca67beeb@googlegroups.com...
> I read on a IETF mailing list around may 2014 about  problems with mailing 
> lists and some e-mail providers (yahoo? gmail? I am not 100% sure, it has 
> been a long time...) that changed their DMARC policies and this caused the 
> (silent?) rejection of some ML messages.  It has been a long time and I do 
> not remember the details (I can dig, if you want).  Maybe is this related 
> with the Ada-Comment problem?
> 
> If this can help: I have a gmail account and I received the thread about 
> random number generation.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Riccardo
> 
> On Friday, November 14, 2014 7:18:21 AM UTC+1, Randy Brukardt wrote:
> > I just noticed that a number of you got auto-deleted from Ada-Comment
> > tonight. If you didn't get a bunch of messages from it in the last week
> > about random numbers (the last on Tuesday), you've probably got a problem
> > getting mail from my systems. (Dmitry and Christoph are among the people
> > that got removed from the list).
> >
> > I changed Internet providers late last month, and that could have broken
> > some firewall rules and the like (my mail and web servers are at different
> > IPs than before, so old rules may need to be replaced). So you might want 
> > to
> > check if everything is working on your end, and resubscribe if you still
> > want to get list mail.
> >
> >                       Randy Brukardt, ARG Editor and AdaIC webmaster.

Re: Ada-Comment

[AdaMagica]

Am Freitag, 14. November 2014 07:18:21 UTC+1 schrieb Randy Brukardt:
> (Dmitry and Christoph are among the people that got removed from the list).

Randy, it seems I'm unable to resubscribe to the list. I do not receive confirmation mail.

Christoph

Re: Ada-Comment

[Randy Brukardt]

I tried to send you an e-mail from here (my office), and the mail bounced. 
I've sent mail to the address reflected in the bounce, but they replied that 
they have the address blocked for some reason and won't change it unless I 
change something about how our ISP identifies us. That's going to take a 
while to resolve (will need help from the ISP, which may not be possible), 
so check back in a week or so.

                               Randy.

"AdaMagica" <christ-usch.grein@t-online.de> wrote in message 
news:4bdfe746-2285-418c-9318-9a0cfec8e99a@googlegroups.com...
> Am Freitag, 14. November 2014 07:18:21 UTC+1 schrieb Randy Brukardt:
>> (Dmitry and Christoph are among the people that got removed from the 
>> list).
>
> Randy, it seems I'm unable to resubscribe to the list. I do not receive 
> confirmation mail.
>
> Christoph 

Re: Ada-Comment

[Randy Brukardt]

"Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com> wrote in message 
news:m446rb$2jt$1@loke.gir.dk...
>I just noticed that a number of you got auto-deleted from Ada-Comment 
>tonight. If you didn't get a bunch of messages from it in the last week 
>about random numbers (the last on Tuesday), you've probably got a problem 
>getting mail from my systems. (Dmitry and Christoph are among the people 
>that got removed from the list).
>
> I changed Internet providers late last month, and that could have broken 
> some firewall rules and the like (my mail and web servers are at different 
> IPs than before, so old rules may need to be replaced). So you might want 
> to check if everything is working on your end, and resubscribe if you 
> still want to get list mail.

I've finished wrestling with a couple of mail providers, and as far as I 
know, everybody is receiving mail from me/Ada-Comment/ARG again. So if you 
think you stopped getting Ada-Comment messages, you could try again  and/or 
resubscribe. (Note: There hasn't been any Ada-Comment traffic since Nov 11, 
so it might be hard to tell if it is working.)

                                        Randy Brukardt, Ada-Comment 
webmaster and thousands of other hats :-)