From: "Björn Lundin" <b.f.lundin@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ada for Automation
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 11:43:12 +0100
Date: 2014-11-18T11:43:12+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m4f7p3$7lt$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18cxzhton11yu.1s3cu5zea772b.dlg@40tude.net>
On 2014-11-18 10:28, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:52:13 +0100, Björn Lundin wrote:
>
>> Very few sites use OPC, which was believed to be THE way of
>> communicating in the early 2000s
>
> Huh.
Sorry. I'm talking about communication between a host system (WCS) and
a PLC with the purpose of moving pallets on a conveyor.
OPC was something most vendor talked about, but
not to many implemented it. As a transportation layer.
The actual data being passed is different between most if not all vnedors.
>
>> Talking modbus directly would be nice, but in my field, I don't see
>> any of the vendors preferring that to TCP/IP.
>
> ModBus TCP is actually far more wide spread than ModBus RTU.
>
> The design of middleware should support easy developing on new interfaces.
> That is the idea of middleware, to decouple the application from the
> hardware.
Yes, that is why I think Ada for Automation is interesting.
But in practice, i still see the dominating way of this kind of
communication to be TCP/IP with vendor-specific data content.
The standard question, with each new vendor we meet, is
'Can you do this'? and then they hand over a protocol specification -
TCP/IP and a propriatary data content, with a small variation of
* who is server?
* one or two sockets?
* protocol level acks
* re-transmissions (if no nak, timeout and re-send)
*
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--
Björn
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-11-06 11:14 Ada for Automation slos
2014-11-06 13:31 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-06 14:43 ` slos
2014-11-06 17:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-06 21:58 ` slos
2014-11-07 8:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-07 9:51 ` slos
2014-11-07 13:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-07 15:23 ` slos
2014-11-07 17:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-07 20:37 ` slos
2014-11-07 21:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-07 22:21 ` slos
2014-11-07 11:44 ` slos
2014-11-07 13:46 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 8:52 ` Björn Lundin
2014-11-18 9:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 10:43 ` Björn Lundin [this message]
2014-11-18 11:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 12:27 ` Björn Lundin
2014-11-18 13:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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