From: Pete Ballmer <pballbeatsemall@microshaft.com>
Subject: Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 08:03:22 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2014-11-13T08:03:22+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m41oka$6lt$1@speranza.aioe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m40odq$tdv$1@loke.gir.dk
On 2014-11-12, Randy Brukardt <randy@rrsoftware.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, if it is like most of David's other software, it won't work
> on other Ada compilers. (That is a common problem, not really picking on
> David here, a lot of supposedly Ada software is really GNAT software.) That
> locks you into GNAT, and as you note, the costs for getting regular support
> for GNAT are not really affordable.
This is an issue with all of FSF's proprietary stuff generally not just
Ada. What percentage of "C" code written for Linux and NUXI is actually
really C rather than gcc? Not very much. It's bad for the ecosystem when
code only compiles under one toolchain. FSF knows that and that's why they
create all these extensinons. It's just another smarter form of vendor
lock-in and it's hard to understand why people accept this.
It takes a lot of discipline and expense to write portable code and all the
gxx stuff makes it tempting to do otherwise. You _will_ be fsfimilated!
Peter
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2014-11-10 9:30 What exactly is the licensing situation with Gnat? Hubert
2014-11-10 10:03 ` Markus Schöpflin
2014-11-10 10:38 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-11-10 11:09 ` Hubert
2014-11-10 11:19 ` Markus Schöpflin
2014-11-10 15:45 ` David Botton
2014-11-11 0:09 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 10:54 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-11 11:05 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 13:37 ` john
2014-11-11 22:52 ` Hubert
2014-11-11 23:10 ` David Botton
2014-11-11 23:25 ` Alan Jump
2014-11-12 0:50 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 1:02 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-12 7:09 ` Gour
2014-11-12 11:06 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 7:41 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-13 1:30 ` Simon Clubley
2014-11-12 1:15 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 1:24 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 1:33 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 7:13 ` Gour
2014-11-12 10:56 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 8:12 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-12 8:35 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 9:25 ` Mark Carroll
2014-11-12 9:37 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 10:31 ` jm.tarrasa
2014-11-12 10:43 ` J-P. Rosen
2014-11-12 10:44 ` Hubert
2014-11-12 12:06 ` Gour
2014-11-12 12:38 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 15:23 ` Gour
2014-11-12 16:30 ` David Botton
2014-11-12 13:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-12 22:53 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-12 23:21 ` David Botton
2014-11-13 1:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 8:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 21:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 8:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 22:24 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 22:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-15 9:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 0:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 9:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 4:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 5:12 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 6:13 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 8:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 9:29 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 9:40 ` Pascal Obry
2014-11-15 11:18 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-15 11:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 0:28 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 9:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 22:25 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-19 9:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-19 23:59 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-20 9:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-20 21:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-21 9:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-21 22:12 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-22 9:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 17:32 ` Florian Weimer
2014-11-15 19:58 ` 'Image (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 0:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-18 8:20 ` 'Image Björn Lundin
2014-11-18 22:29 ` 'Image Randy Brukardt
2014-11-19 13:46 ` 'Image (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Brian Drummond
2014-11-19 14:21 ` 'Image G.B.
2014-11-20 13:32 ` 'Image Brian Drummond
2014-11-13 0:48 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? sbelmont700
2014-11-13 1:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 1:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 8:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-13 22:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 16:26 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-13 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 1:54 ` Hubert
2014-11-13 2:04 ` Hubert
2014-11-13 7:53 ` Luther Bogart
2014-11-13 7:58 ` Luther Bogart
2014-11-13 16:38 ` Tero Koskinen
2014-11-13 21:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-13 22:02 ` Mark Carroll
2014-11-13 22:43 ` Jeffrey Carter
2014-11-14 1:36 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 4:45 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-14 5:24 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 8:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 9:02 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 10:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 10:38 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 12:57 ` Peter Chapin
2014-11-14 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-17 8:28 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-14 13:35 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-14 15:29 ` Things that OO programming lacks (was: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) G.B.
2014-11-14 16:32 ` Things that OO programming lacks Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 19:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-16 10:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 18:51 ` Shark8
2014-11-16 19:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 15:17 ` G.B.
2014-11-17 17:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 18:23 ` G.B.
2014-11-17 20:02 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-17 21:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 10:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 13:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-18 18:50 ` G.B.
2014-11-18 19:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 19:21 ` Shark8
2014-11-17 20:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 17:54 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-16 19:01 ` Niklas Holsti
2014-11-16 19:14 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-16 19:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-16 20:33 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-17 8:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 14:29 ` Simon Wright
2014-11-17 17:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:36 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Stan Mills
2014-11-17 11:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 14:20 ` G.B.
2014-11-14 9:19 ` Hubert
2014-11-14 10:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 1:00 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 1:24 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 9:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 10:27 ` Hubert
2014-11-15 19:44 ` Robert A Duff
2014-11-15 7:22 ` Gour
2014-11-15 9:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 10:51 ` Gour
2014-11-15 11:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-15 12:41 ` Gour
2014-11-15 13:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-17 8:11 ` Stan Mills
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2014-11-17 8:48 ` Stan Mills
2014-11-17 10:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-11-13 8:03 ` Pete Ballmer [this message]
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2014-11-13 23:56 ` David Botton
2014-11-14 7:50 ` community-based compiler (was Re: What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT?) Gour
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2014-11-16 19:31 ` Florian Weimer
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2014-11-14 22:40 ` Randy Brukardt
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2014-11-18 0:52 ` Randy Brukardt
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2014-11-18 9:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-11-18 22:33 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-11-15 12:44 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-15 22:47 ` Shark8
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2014-11-17 11:28 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-11-19 13:48 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-27 12:52 ` Brian Drummond
2014-11-14 21:05 ` Luke A. Guest
2014-11-14 8:25 ` What exactly is the licensing situation with GNAT? Pete Ballmer
2014-11-14 12:46 ` Peter Chapin
2014-11-15 8:47 ` Mart van de Wege
2014-11-16 9:32 ` Pete Ballmer
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2014-11-12 13:31 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
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