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From: Andi Kleen <ak-uu@muc.de>
Subject: Re: C like op= proposal
Date: 1999/08/18
Date: 1999-08-18T15:45:52+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3u2pxt7m7.fsf@fred.muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7pd6th$2qj$1@nnrp1.deja.com

Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-deja.com> writes:

> In article <m3u2pyutzu.fsf@fred.muc.de>,
>   Andi Kleen <ak-uu@muc.de> wrote:
> > [1] To attribute correctly this is an old argument from, I
> believe
> > Dennis Ritchie, in a prehistoric article about C. I think he's
> right.
> 
> 
> No, this is older than C, these notations were around in
> Algol variants (as +:=) before C existed. Note that Algol-68
> has these operators.

So was the argument "x+=1 is more human brain and code review friendly 
than x:=x+1" already used during Algol development? 

I was just attributing where I read this particular point
first.

I guess the reason why it wasn't included in Pascal is that Wirth
was too hooked to pure mathematical thinking where they of course
equivalent (ignoring that x:=x+1 is per see mathematical nonsense,
either x is x or it is x+1, but not both @)

> But there are many other factors in the Ada decision. Please
> go look up old threads, I don't feel like going over this stuff
> again myself :-)

I don't intend to, I understand that it is unrealistic and will
probably never happen to Ada.  I just couldn't resist to bring
another view to the boring "+= helps the optimizer" discussions.


-Andi
-- 
This is like TV. I don't like TV.




  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-08-18  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-08-15  0:00 C like op= proposal Brian Rogoff
1999-08-15  0:00 ` Ray Blaak
1999-08-15  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-08-16  0:00     ` Gautier
1999-08-17  0:00       ` John Duncan
1999-08-17  0:00         ` Gautier
1999-08-17  0:00       ` Samuel Tardieu
1999-08-17  0:00         ` Gautier
1999-08-17  0:00         ` Andi Kleen
1999-08-18  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-08-17  0:00             ` Brian Rogoff
1999-08-18  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-08-18  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-08-19  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-08-21  0:00                     ` Brian Rogoff
1999-08-23  0:00                     ` Robert A Duff
1999-08-18  0:00               ` Ted Dennison
1999-08-18  0:00                 ` Jeff Carter
1999-08-18  0:00                   ` Keith Thompson
1999-08-19  0:00                     ` Michael F. Yoder
1999-08-21  0:00                       ` Keith Thompson
1999-08-19  0:00                     ` Tarjei T. Jensen
1999-08-19  0:00                       ` Ted Dennison
1999-08-19  0:00                       ` Lance Kibblewhite
1999-08-19  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-08-20  0:00                         ` P.S. Norby
1999-08-21  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-08-19  0:00                       ` tmoran
1999-08-18  0:00                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1999-08-18  0:00               ` Gautier
1999-08-18  0:00             ` Andi Kleen [this message]
1999-08-18  0:00         ` Gautier
1999-08-16  0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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