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From: Preben Randhol <randhol@pvv.org>
Subject: Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects'
Date: 2000/02/17
Date: 2000-02-17T14:24:38+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3snyrrjnn.fsf@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: t7r9ee5ihu.fsf@calumny.jyacc.com

Hyman Rosen <hymie@prolifics.com> writes:

| kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) writes:
| > I am convinced that a great many of their defects are coding issues.
| > 
| > I am not convinced that fixing all the coding issues (by any method)
| > would not still leave a great many other defects, probably enough to
| > make the fact that coding issues had been fixed invisible to the user.
| > 
| > I am not at all convinced that defects enumerated by Microsoft (or
| > any other vendor) cover a reasonable fraction of the total defects
| > in the software.
| 
| Do you have evidence for any of these convictions?

Usually one do _not_ spot all errors in a program. So if Microsoft has
spotted 63k errors out of which 27k are "real errors" (as said by M$),
I would think that there are probably far more bugs that has not been
detected. Other than that one can look at all the other software
Microsoft has produced and the quality of it.

What I cannot understand is that it is possible to shipping a product
you know has so many bugs and charge money for. Especially in the US
of A. Why companies do not sue Microsoft is beyond me.   

-- 
Preben Randhol -- [randhol@pvv.org] -- [http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/]     
         "Det eneste trygge stedet i verden er inne i en fortelling." 
                                                      -- Athol Fugard




  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-02-17  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-02-15  0:00 Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Gautier
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-02-15  0:00         ` Hyman Rosen
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-15  0:00           ` Ed Falis
2000-02-15  0:00             ` Hyman Rosen
     [not found]             ` <RUkq4.1243$dw3.69085@news.wenet.net>
2000-02-15  0:00               ` Dang! (was Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Mike Silva
2000-02-17  0:00                 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-17  0:00                   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]           ` <150220001931201946%emery@grebyn.com>
2000-02-17  0:00             ` Win2000 has 63,000 'defects' Dale Pontius
2000-02-19  0:00               ` Joe Wisniewski
2000-02-21  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-03-04  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-03-06  0:00                     ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-06  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-07  0:00                       ` Marin D. Condic
2000-03-07  0:00                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-03-08  0:00                           ` Marin D. Condic
     [not found]               ` <1e66z6d.1a9fzdvtbw6t2N%herwin@gmu.edu>
2000-02-19  0:00                 ` Nick Roberts
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-17  0:00       ` Preben Randhol [this message]
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Gautier
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Charles Hixson
2000-03-07  0:00     ` Mike Dimmick
2000-03-07  0:00       ` Brian Rogoff
2000-03-08  0:00       ` Dale Pontius
2000-03-08  0:00         ` David Starner
2000-03-08  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-08  0:00             ` Laurent Guerby
2000-03-10  0:00             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-02-15  0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]     ` <38A9C619.790950B0@quadruscorp.com>
2000-02-15  0:00       ` Keith Thompson
2000-02-15  0:00   ` Marin D. Condic
2000-02-17  0:00   ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-17  0:00     ` Gautier
     [not found] ` <38A9C4ED.C75316F9@raytheon.com>
2000-02-16  0:00   ` Samuel T. Harris
2000-02-16  0:00 ` Windows TP (Re: Win2000 has 63,000 'defects') Vladimir Olensky
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