From: Ole Kristensen <ole@linux.local>
Subject: Re: Is ther any sense in *= and matrices?
Date: 10 Jun 2003 21:24:30 +0200
Date: 2003-06-10T21:24:30+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3of153fdd.fsf@linux.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: i6qcnalrSvKcnnujXTWcpw@gbronline.com
Wesley Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com> writes:
> > Yes, on modern hardware, having a pointer for each row of the matrix
> > usually leads to slower code. The reason is that the indexing
> > operation by multilply/add is actually faster than fetching a pointer
> > from an array and then adding, thereby incurring an extra memory fetch
> > and cache pollution. The above holds for large matrices, I haven't
>
> So Java's handling of arrays is inefficient
> for matrices, even if bypassing the JVM by
> compiling to native code?
Can't speak for Java, but when I tried a 128**3 matrix in Ada and C++,
the plain indexing scheme beat the clever pointer array by a
significant amount. This was on a 1.8GHz Pentium 4. I cannot say
anything definite about other systems, but in general, it pays to
think a lot about memory access patterns on fast CPU's.
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2003-06-05 10:45 Is ther any sense in *= and matrices? Preben Randhol
2003-06-05 11:13 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-05 11:28 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-05 11:53 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-05 15:27 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-05 15:40 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-05 15:47 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-05 16:38 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-05 17:16 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-05 17:17 ` Preben Randhol
2003-06-05 17:59 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-06-07 19:38 ` Russ
2003-06-08 6:46 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-08 18:51 ` Russ
2003-06-08 20:52 ` tmoran
2003-06-09 4:24 ` Russ
2003-06-09 5:13 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-10 9:38 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-10 16:11 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-10 19:24 ` Ole Kristensen [this message]
2003-06-10 18:33 ` Russ
2003-06-10 23:16 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-09 6:58 ` tmoran
2003-06-08 22:23 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-09 6:06 ` Russ
2003-06-09 10:06 ` Mango Jones
2003-06-08 22:56 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-06-09 4:27 ` Russ
2003-06-09 5:17 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-09 14:53 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-06-09 17:46 ` Russ
2003-06-10 9:57 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-06-05 12:33 ` John R. Strohm
2003-06-05 19:25 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-05 20:17 ` David C. Hoos
2003-06-05 20:52 ` Wesley Groleau
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2003-06-10 19:00 tmoran
2003-06-10 19:37 ` Ole Kristensen
2003-06-10 19:37 ` Ole Kristensen
2003-06-10 19:48 ` Ole Kristensen
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