From: Preben Randhol <randhol@pvv.org>
Subject: Re: JAVA and ADA JGNAT
Date: 2000/01/26
Date: 2000-01-26T18:44:39+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3g0vk65as.fsf@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86n2lf$a2g1@news.cis.okstate.edu
dvdeug@x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu (David Starner) writes:
| I'd disagree. The problem is not that they're open, but that nobody did
| any work. It would have happened anyway, you just would never had heard
| about it. Linux and Debian GNU/Linux are two examples of projects that
| were open from the barest beginnings, and were successful partially
| because of it.
1. I didn't say that open software is bad, I prefer that very much to
closed software, but I said that premature releases are bad.
2. I don't think a project that releases the source at say version
0.30 is any worse off than one that releases it at 0.0.1 where
nothing usually works at all.
| Usually. I think our definitions of reasonably usable are different,
| though. Again, the Linux kernel was released at 0.0.1 and it worked
| well enough to attract developers (which is what's important to the
| success of a project, not users).
Well my point exactly, it worked well enough to attract developers. It
was then not premature...
| Sure. But I'd rather have a JGNAT than no JGNAT. And I don't
As I see it there is no black and white situation here, only that you
have to wait a bit longer for the product.
| Then stop using the ones marked alpha or beta. I've seen very few
| open source products not marked alpha or beta that were not stable,
| and I've found many marked such that were. YMMV.
One that was released prematurely _as stable_ twice, is the Gnome
Project http://www.gnome.org.
One thing Open Source Projects and deadlines do not mix. :-)
--
Preben Randhol -- [randhol@pvv.org] -- [http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/]
"Det eneste trygge stedet i verden er inne i en fortelling."
-- Athol Fugard
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-01-18 0:00 JAVA and ADA JGNAT Mark Burge
2000-01-18 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-19 0:00 ` Ed Falis
2000-01-19 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-19 0:00 ` Ed Falis
2000-01-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-25 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-25 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-25 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-01-26 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Pascal Martin
2000-01-26 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Jean-Marc Bourguet
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
2000-01-28 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-01-31 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-28 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-01-30 0:00 ` Stefan Skoglund
2000-01-31 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-01-31 0:00 ` Pascal F. Martin
2000-01-31 0:00 ` reason67
2000-01-31 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
2000-02-06 0:00 ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-06 0:00 ` Aidan Skinner
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Pascal Martin
2000-02-08 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-11 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-01-26 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Preben Randhol [this message]
2000-01-26 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-01-27 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-26 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-02-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-01-19 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-01-19 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
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