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From: Matthew Heaney <matthew_heaney@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops)
Date: 1998/09/05
Date: 1998-09-05T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3emtq4vhd.fsf@mheaney.ni.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrn6v1k5p.1lb.jdege@jdege.visi.com

jdege@jdege.visi.com (Jeffrey C. Dege) writes:

> These two quotes do not, admittedly, demonstrate that Dijkstra advocated
> se/se as a part of structured programming.  They do, however, explain
> why Robert and Patrick are so adamanent about the idea that se/se is
> a part of structured programming, because the authors of the college
> textbooks said so.
> 
> It is certainly possible that Dijkstra didn't stress se/se in his
> original work on structured programming.  The only one of his early
> works on the subject I have access to is his GOTO letter, which
> doesn't begin to explore the consequences of the idea.  But what
> is certainly true is that the programming profession, for a great
> many years now, has considered se/se one of the fundamental
> principles of structured programming.

The best answer to the question "What is structured programming?" was
provided by David Gries, in Chap 6, On Structured Programming, of his
book Programming Methodology (Springer-Verlag, 1978).

The chapter begins with the statement:

"The term structured programming has been used with many different
meanings since Edsger W. Dijkstra first coined the term.  Actually, the
term appeared in the title of his monograph Notes On Structured
Programming [that's the "little black book" - matt], but as far as I can
determine not in the monograph itself!"

So Dijkstra never precisely defined the term "structured programming."

Next sentence in Gries:

"The lack of a precise definition has allowed, even encouraged, people
to use it as they wished, to attribute to sp ["sp" is how Gries
abbreviates "structured programming" - matt] what they themselves
learned from reading Notes On Structures Programming, however different
this might have been from Dijkstra's intent."

Now we're getting warm.  Ed Yourdon other authors have stated that
structured programming means single entry/single exit modules, but did
Dijkstra say this specifically?  The answer would appear to be no.

(I myself have the little black book around, and I'm going to make it a
point to re-read it.  Sadly, this classic text is long out of print, but
I was able to find one in a used bookstore.)

Next sentence of Gries:

"Taken out of context or viewed in the wrong light, some of the
resulting definations of sp that have appeared in the literature seem
stupid (e.g., sp is programming without gotos), and it is quite
understandable that programmers have looked askance when asked to learn
and practice it."

Gries lists impressions that various people have of sp.  Here are some
of them:

(start of quote)
1. It is a return to common sense.

2. It is the general method by which our leading programmers program.

3. It is programming without the use of goto statements.

5. It is top down programming

6. sp theory deals with converting arbitrarily large and complex
flowcharts into standard forms so that they can be represented by
iterating and nesting a small number of basic and standard control logic
structures (these usually being sequencing, alternation, and iteration)

7. sp is a manner of organizing and coding programs that makes that
programs easily understood and modified

8. The purpose of sp is to control complexity through theory and
discipline 

9. sp should be characterized not by the absence of gotos, but by the
presence of structure

10. A major function of the structuring of the program is to keep a
correctness proof feasible [this one comes from Dijkstra, in Notes On
Structured Programming]

11. A fundamental concept (of sp) is a proof of correctness.

13. sp is no panacea--it really consists of a formal notation for
orderly thinking, an attribute not commonly inherent in programmers or
any other type...
(end of quote)

Take a close look at item 10, from Dijkstra himself.  Dijkstra stated in
his original ACM letter is that there is a "conceptual gap between the
static program and the dynamic process."  His complaint was that an
_unstructured_ program made it hard to reason about the program's
behavior.

What some advocates of the se/se policy seem to be forgetting is that
the whole point is being able to mentally reason about behavior.  By
reading the program text, can you figure out what this program does?

I provided a couple of simple examples, one of them an idiom for using a
special input value to terminate a loop:

loop
   Get (N);
   exit when N = 0;
   <process N>
end loop;

Is there anyone who doesn't understand what this code fragment does?  

Structured programming means keeping the code simple, where "simple"
means "being able to easily tell what it does."  It means being able to
prove that it's correct.  See item 7.

In spite of the fact that this loop exits from the middle, I would argue
that it does indeed fit the defination of a "structured" program.

We've been debating whether a program that terminates a loop from the
middle, or does an early return, is really a "structured" program, but I
think this misses the point.  

We should instead be asking, Can I mentally reason about this program's
behavior?  Am I able to write a correctness proof for this program?  Am
I confident that this program works?

That's the real meaning of "structured."

Back to Gries:

"Let me give C. A. R. Hoare's definition, which I feel captures the
essence of sp: "The task of organizing one's thought in a way that
leads, in a reasonable time, to an understandable expression of a
computing task, has come to be called sp.""

Again, I would argue that in my comparision operation, even though it
terminates via multiple returns, can indeed be called a "structured"
program, because it's "an understandable expression of a computing
task."  

I chose the implementation I did precisely because it simplifies mental
reasoning about its behavior.  When I get the answer, deliver it NOW,
without trying to navigate a circuitous route to the end of the
subprogram, only to deliver it THEN.

Two more lines I'd like to quote from Gries:

"I would add to this that one should always strive for simplicity and
elegance.  The simplest solution is always the easiest to understand."






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1998-08-06  0:00 Why C++ is successful Robert Dewar
1998-08-07  0:00 ` harald.mueller
1998-08-07  0:00   ` Brian Rogoff
1998-08-07  0:00     ` Timothy Welch
1998-08-08  0:00       ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-08-08  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-08  0:00         ` Larry Elmore
1998-08-08  0:00         ` Phlip
1998-08-08  0:00         ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-08  0:00           ` Patrick Logan
1998-08-10  0:00           ` Laurent GUERBY
1998-08-12  0:00             ` Andy Ward
1998-08-12  0:00               ` Matt Kennel
1998-08-14  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-13  0:00                 ` nasser
1998-08-19  0:00                   ` Don Harrison
1998-08-14  0:00                 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-16  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16  0:00                     ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-18  0:00                     ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-08-16  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16  0:00                     ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-14  0:00                 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) dennison
1998-08-15  0:00                   ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1998-08-16  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17  0:00                     ` dennison
1998-08-18  0:00                       ` adam
1998-08-19  0:00                         ` Tucker Taft
1998-08-19  0:00                           ` adam
1998-08-19  0:00                       ` ell
1998-08-19  0:00                         ` Charles Hixson
1998-08-19  0:00                         ` adam
1998-08-19  0:00                           ` Dan Higdon
1998-08-20  0:00                             ` adam
1998-08-20  0:00                               ` Dan Higdon
1998-08-20  0:00                               ` Software landmines (loops) Nick Leaton
1998-08-30  0:00                                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-30  0:00                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-08-30  0:00                                     ` Charles Hixson
1998-08-31  0:00                                       ` Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]                                     ` <35f51e53.48044143@news.erols.c <m3af4mq7f4.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31  0:00                                       ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-31  0:00                                         ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-01  0:00                                           ` Simon Wright
1998-09-02  0:00                                           ` adam
1998-08-31  0:00                                         ` Gene Gajewski
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31  0:00                                     ` dennison
1998-08-31  0:00                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06  0:00                                           ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                       ` Andrew Reilly
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` dewarr
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` dennison
1998-09-01  0:00                                           ` Which wastes more time? (Was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Robert Huffman
1998-09-02  0:00                                             ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Jerry van Dijk
1998-09-04  0:00                                                 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04  0:00                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                     ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04  0:00                                                       ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                       ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                         ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05  0:00                                                           ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                             ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05  0:00                                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                     ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                         ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06  0:00                                                               ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-07  0:00                                                               ` Andrew Reilly
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09  0:00                                                               ` Paolo F. Cantoni
1998-09-10  0:00                                                                 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                   ` Paolo F. Cantoni
1998-09-12  0:00                                                                     ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05  0:00                                                           ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-09  0:00                                                             ` Paolo F. Cantoni
1998-09-09  0:00                                                               ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                 ` Paolo F. Cantoni
     [not found]                                                       ` <35f48276.90997557@news.erols.com <35F42CAC.6F566DC7@s054.aone.net.au>
1998-09-07  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08  0:00                                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-08  0:00                                                             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-09  0:00                                                               ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-10  0:00                                                                   ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09  0:00                                                                     ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                       ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                       ` Loryn Jenkins
     [not found]                                                       ` <35f48276.90997557@news.erols.com <35F79B59.185AA03E@s054.aone.net.au>
1998-09-11  0:00                                                         ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-12  0:00                                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-12  0:00                                                             ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` Software landmines (loops) Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31  0:00                                     ` Ell
1998-08-31  0:00                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31  0:00                                         ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Ell
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Ell
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-31  0:00                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Ell
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Phlip
1998-08-31  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31  0:00                                               ` Ell
1998-08-31  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                   ` Steven Perryman
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Charles Hixson
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` dewarr
1998-08-31  0:00                                         ` Stephen Leake
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Agent
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Ell
1998-08-31  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` dennison
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Andrew Reilly
1998-09-01  0:00                                                         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                           ` dennison
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1998-09-03  0:00                                                   ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` John G. Volan
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Ell
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Richard MacDonald (dogmat)
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` dennison
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` mfinney
     [not found]                                                     ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0309982244140001@dialup62.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-04  0:00                                                       ` Ell
     [not found]                                                 ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0309982225160001@dialup62.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-15  0:00                                                   ` mfinney
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-01  0:00                                             ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-02  0:00                                               ` Ell
1998-10-02  0:00                                               ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-02  0:00                                                 ` Ell
1998-10-03  0:00                                                   ` Ell
1998-10-03  0:00                                                     ` Ell
1998-10-02  0:00                                                 ` John I. Moore, Jr.
1998-10-02  0:00                                                   ` Ell
1998-10-03  0:00                                                   ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-03  0:00                                                     ` Richard D Riehle
1998-10-03  0:00                                                     ` John I. Moore, Jr.
1998-10-05  0:00                                                       ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-06  0:00                                                       ` Matt Kennel
1998-10-06  0:00                                                         ` Ell
1998-10-03  0:00                                                     ` Ell
1998-10-05  0:00                                                     ` dewarr
1998-10-04  0:00                                                       ` Robert C. Martin
1998-10-05  0:00                                                         ` Ell
1998-10-05  0:00                                                           ` Ell
1998-10-05  0:00                                                         ` Ell
1998-10-09  0:00                                                     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-09  0:00                                                       ` Ell
1998-10-03  0:00                                                   ` John Goodsen
1998-10-02  0:00                                                 ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-03  0:00                                                   ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-04  0:00                                                     ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-05  0:00                                                       ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-05  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-06  0:00                                                         ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-11  0:00                                                           ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-05  0:00                                                 ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-08  0:00                                                   ` s350817
1998-10-09  0:00                                                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                       ` Charles Hixson
     [not found]                                     ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31  0:00                                       ` Andrew Hussey
1998-08-31  0:00                                         ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-31  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` Stephen Leake
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Richard Jones
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Mattias Lundstr�m
1998-09-01  0:00                                           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-08-31  0:00                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Tim McDermott
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Larry Brasfield
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` dewar
1998-08-31  0:00                                           ` Robert Martin
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Gene Gajewski
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` sureshvv
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` sureshvv
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-04  0:00                                                       ` adam
1998-09-06  0:00                                                         ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-04  0:00                                                       ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                     ` Rick Smith
1998-09-04  0:00                                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                       ` Charles Hixson
     [not found]                                                       ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0809981818260001@dialup75.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-08  0:00                                                         ` Mark A Biggar
1998-09-08  0:00                                                         ` Rick Smith
1998-09-08  0:00                                                       ` adam
1998-09-08  0:00                                                         ` Rick Smith
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-31  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Gerhard Menzl
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Tres Seaver
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` sureshvv
1998-09-03  0:00                                                   ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                               ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Chris Brand
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` James Weirich
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` Mike Spille
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Nick Leaton
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` John Volan
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` John Volan
1998-09-01  0:00                                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Nick Leaton
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Chris Saunders
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` Darren New
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Joe Gamache
1998-09-04  0:00                                                         ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-05  0:00                                                           ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05  0:00                                                             ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-04  0:00                                                 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-05  0:00                                                   ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-01  0:00                                               ` dewarr
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Really a U.S. thing? (Was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Brian Rogoff
1998-09-01  0:00                                                 ` Optimizations (was: " dennison
1998-09-01  0:00                                                   ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Richard D Riehle
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` Tucker Taft
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-01  0:00                                                     ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Dr Richard A. O'Keefe
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-04  0:00                                                           ` Al Christians
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-09-04  0:00                                                           ` Al Christians
1998-09-05  0:00                                                             ` Tom Moran
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Tom Moran
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Tom Moran
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Expressive Case Statements (long source) Tom Moran
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Tom Moran
1998-09-04  0:00                                               ` Software landmines (loops) Jean-Marc Jezequel
1998-09-04  0:00                                                 ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-07  0:00                                                   ` Jean-Marc Jezequel
1998-09-01  0:00                                           ` Don Harrison
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` dewarr
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1998-09-01  0:00                                       ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                           ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                     ` Andre Tibben
1998-09-04  0:00                                                       ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` sureshvv
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                           ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03  0:00                                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                               ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03  0:00                                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                 ` sureshvv
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                     ` Mike Spille
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                       ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                         ` Moderators for life (was: Re: Software landmines) Martijn Meijering
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                           ` Thaddeus L. Olczyk
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                           ` Moderators for life Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Software landmines (loops) Ray Blaak
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                     ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Gerry Quinn
     [not found]                                                               ` <EyyLos.2nx@yc.estec.esa.nl>
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                 ` John G. Volan
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                   ` duncan
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                     ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-06  0:00                                                           ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06  0:00                                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                               ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-09  0:00                                                               ` sureshvv
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                         ` Ell
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                             ` Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                 ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                   ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                     ` Matthew Heaney [this message]
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                               ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                                 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                                   ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                                 ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                                   ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                         ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                           ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                             ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                           ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-09  0:00                                                                       ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-16  0:00                                                                           ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                             ` [WAYRTW?] (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Zane Lewkowicz
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                               ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                               ` L. Darrell Ray
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                   ` Software landmines (loops) Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                       ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                     ` Loryn Jenkins
     [not found]                                                     ` <6skqf3$ <35F0B5B0.8E2D0166@s054.aone.net.au>
1998-09-06  0:00                                                       ` Will Rose
1998-09-06  0:00                                                         ` Ell
1998-09-06  0:00                                                           ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-01  0:00                                           ` Mike Spille
1998-09-01  0:00                                             ` Robert Martin
     [not found]                                               ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0309982212300001@dialup62.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-04  0:00                                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]                                                   ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0809981840170001@dialup75.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-09  0:00                                                     ` Nick Leaton
     [not found]                                                       ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609980026290001@dialup26.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-16  0:00                                                         ` Nick Leaton
1998-09-02  0:00                                           ` mfinney
1998-09-02  0:00                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Ell
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` adam
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Ell
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Ell
1998-09-02  0:00                                                         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Joe Gwinn
1998-09-03  0:00                                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` sureshvv
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-06  0:00                                                             ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06  0:00                                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                     ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12  0:00                                                                     ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-06  0:00                                                               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-08  0:00                                                               ` adam
1998-09-09  0:00                                                                 ` Gerry Quinn
     [not found]                                                                   ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609980034390001@dialup26.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-16  0:00                                                                     ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-16  0:00                                                                       ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Rick Smith
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                         ` Markus Kuhn
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                           ` dewarr
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                             ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                               ` dewarr
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                                 ` Markus Kuhn
1998-10-09  0:00                                                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-09  0:00                                                                               ` Jay Martin
1998-10-09  0:00                                                                                 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-10  0:00                                                                                 ` Dave Wood
1998-10-13  0:00                                                                                 ` last.first
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                   ` Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                   ` Brian Mueller
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                     ` College, C, etc. (Was Re: Is there a language that Dijkstra liked?) Darren New
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                       ` Tom J
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                         ` K. Mathias
1998-10-24  0:00                                                                                       ` Jerry van Dijk
1998-10-25  0:00                                                                                       ` College, C, etc Frank Sergeant
1998-10-26  0:00                                                                                         ` Darren New
1998-10-29  0:00                                                                                           ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-29  0:00                                                                                             ` Paul A. Howes
1998-10-30  0:00                                                                                               ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-10-30  0:00                                                                                                 ` Patrick Logan
1998-10-29  0:00                                                                                             ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                     ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Ell
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                     ` Arun Mangalam
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                       ` DPH
1998-10-24  0:00                                                                                         ` Michael Stark
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                     ` midlamD
1998-10-23  0:00                                                                                       ` Ell
1998-10-24  0:00                                                                                     ` Dave Wood
1998-10-24  0:00                                                                                       ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-24  0:00                                                                                     ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-24  0:00                                                                                     ` Dale Stanbrough
1998-10-24  0:00                                                                                     ` Dave Wood
1998-10-26  0:00                                                                                     ` Bill Ghrist
1998-10-27  0:00                                                                                       ` Ell
1998-10-27  0:00                                                                                         ` dewarr
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <3 <slrn73ifd1.8ip.jdege@jdege.visi.com>
1998-10-30  0:00                                                                                       ` College, C, etc Tom J
1998-10-09  0:00                                                                               ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Pat Rogers
1998-10-11  0:00                                                                               ` Bertrand Meyer
1998-10-12  0:00                                                                                 ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-12  0:00                                                                                 ` Rod Chapman
1998-10-13  0:00                                                                                 ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                           ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                             ` dewarr
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                             ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1998-09-21  0:00                                                                             ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? Peter Hermann
1998-09-21  0:00                                                                               ` dewarr
1998-09-21  0:00                                                                               ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                           ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) bengt
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                       ` Software landmines (loops) dewarr
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                         ` Ell
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                       ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                         ` dewarr
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                           ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                             ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                               ` Robert C. Martin
1998-09-19  0:00                                                                                 ` Rick Smith
1998-09-19  0:00                                                                               ` Ell
1998-09-19  0:00                                                                               ` dewarr
1998-09-21  0:00                                                                                 ` Richard D Riehle
1998-09-19  0:00                                                                             ` dewarr
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                 ` spaghetti code(was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Joe Chacko
     [not found]                                                                   ` <01bddfb7$f3eac320$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-15  0:00                                                                     ` prochak
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Software landmines (loops) Malcolm Steel
     [not found]                                                       ` <o1fH1.543$495.1 <gwinn-0309982042490001@d8.dial-4.cmb.ma.ultra.net>
1998-09-04  0:00                                                         ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-04  0:00                                                           ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-09  0:00                                                             ` Samuel Mize
1998-09-09  0:00                                                               ` sureshvv
1998-09-10  0:00                                                                 ` prochak
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                   ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-10  0:00                                                               ` Tim Ottinger
     [not found]                                                                 ` <01bddccc$98b2dda0$ca3aea9e@tom>
1998-09-10  0:00                                                                   ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-11  0:00                                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-12  0:00                                                               ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                 ` alan walkington
1998-09-12  0:00                                                                   ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                 ` Linguistic invention (was Re: Software landmines (loops)) Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18  0:00                                                                   ` Ell
1998-10-09  0:00                                                       ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: " Gautier.DeMontmollin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Software landmines (loops) Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                       ` Ell
     [not found]                                                     ` <6sjnlu$83l$1@hirame.wwa.c <35EE5F67.80D@gecm.com>
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` adam
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` dennison
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Dan Higdon
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` Mid-Loop 'Until' Proposal [was: Software landmines (loops)] John G. Volan
     [not found]                                                       ` <Q7UH1.3152$re2.302134@news.giganews.com>
     [not found]                                                         ` <35F2E055.6922B7EC@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06  0:00                                                           ` John G. Volan
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Software landmines (loops) Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03  0:00                                                             ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                 ` Christopher P. Gariepy
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                     ` Pat Rogers
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                       ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                         ` Types vs classes (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Pat Rogers
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                           ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                             ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                               ` Juergen Schlegelmilch
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                       ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                         ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                           ` Robert Martin
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                             ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                             ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                               ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                                 ` James Weirich
1998-09-08  0:00                                                                                 ` Ken Carpenter
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                           ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Emtpy procedures (was Re: Module size (was Re: Software landmines)) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Module size (was Re: Software landmines) John G. Volan
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                     ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06  0:00                                                                       ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                             ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                 ` Chris Kuan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                             ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` John G. Volan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                   ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-05  0:00                                                                     ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Software landmines (loops) Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Biju Thomas
1998-09-03  0:00                                                           ` Phil Goodwin
1998-09-04  0:00                                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04  0:00                                                               ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                 ` Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                   ` Elliot's paranoia (was something relevent once, but no longer) Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-04  0:00                                                                 ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Logan
1998-09-04  0:00                                                           ` Ell
1998-09-04  0:00                                                             ` Ell
1998-09-05  0:00                                                             ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-06  0:00                                                               ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07  0:00                                                                 ` Loryn Jenkins
     [not found]                                                             ` <35F074C9.E10C <35F2E907.594CD023@earthlink.net>
1998-09-07  0:00                                                               ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-10  0:00                                                             ` Tim Ottinger
1998-09-10  0:00                                                               ` dewarr
1998-09-11  0:00                                                                 ` prochak
1998-09-12  0:00                                                                 ` Ell
1998-09-12  0:00                                                                   ` dewarr
1998-09-12  0:00                                                                     ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-13  0:00                                                                       ` dewarr
1998-09-14  0:00                                                                     ` Ell
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` adam
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Mike Spille
1998-09-03  0:00                                                   ` Richard MacDonald
1998-09-03  0:00                                                   ` Gerry Quinn
1998-09-06  0:00                                                 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-03  0:00                                               ` mfinney
1998-09-03  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
     [not found]                                               ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-0309982311220001@dialup62.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-03  0:00                                                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                             ` john-clonts
1998-09-03  0:00                                               ` mfinney
1998-09-06  0:00                                                 ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-06  0:00                                                   ` mfinney
1998-09-02  0:00                                             ` Ell
1998-09-02  0:00                                             ` Ell
1998-09-02  0:00                                               ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` john-clonts
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Darren New
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Ell
1998-09-02  0:00                                                   ` Robert Oliver
1998-09-02  0:00                                                     ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` sureshvv
1998-09-03  0:00                                                         ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-06  0:00                                                       ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-07  0:00                                                         ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-03  0:00                                                     ` Ell
1998-09-03  0:00                                                       ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-02  0:00                                                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-05  0:00                                               ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-05  0:00                                                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-07  0:00                                                   ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07  0:00                                                     ` Ell
1998-09-07  0:00                                                       ` dewarr
1998-09-09  0:00                                                         ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-11  0:00                                                           ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-07  0:00                                                       ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07  0:00                                                         ` Ell
1998-09-07  0:00                                                           ` Ell
1998-09-09  0:00                                                           ` Ray Gardner
1998-09-07  0:00                                                       ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-07  0:00                                                         ` dewarr
1998-09-07  0:00                                                       ` Ell
1998-09-09  0:00                                                         ` Adrian P. Morgan
1998-09-09  0:00                                                           ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10  0:00                                                             ` mfinney
     [not found]                                                               ` <gio+van+no+ni+8-1609981736190001@dialup47.tlh.talstar.com>
1998-09-17  0:00                                                                 ` mfinney
1998-10-09  0:00                                                     ` Matthew Heaney
     [not found]                                               ` <m31zpq4pim.fsf@mheaney.ni.ne <m3af36wtwh.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-10-11  0:00                                                 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02  0:00                                           ` Gene Gajewski
1998-09-03  0:00                                     ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Fergus Henderson
1998-09-09  0:00                                     ` Software landmines (loops) Jonas M�ls�
     [not found]                                     ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <6t6l4n$rep@jbm.nada.kth.se>
1998-09-10  0:00                                       ` Mats Weber
1998-09-17  0:00                                       ` Matthew Heaney
     [not found]                                 ` <m3ogt3qgca.fsf@mheaney.ni.n <1dghyt5.oik1lzhxzf2N@n207167116176.inetworld.net>
1998-10-10  0:00                                   ` Patrick Doyle
1998-10-12  0:00                                     ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-10-13  0:00                                       ` Matthew Heaney
1998-10-14  0:00                                       ` Graham Perkins
1998-10-15  0:00                                         ` Reimer Behrends
1998-10-15  0:00                                           ` dewarr
1998-10-15  0:00                                       ` Indicators of program quality? (was Re: Software landmines) Jeffrey C. Dege
     [not found]                               ` <m33eagru5g.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31  0:00                                 ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Frank Adrian
1998-08-31  0:00                                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-31  0:00                                     ` Biju Thomas
1998-08-31  0:00                                       ` Robert Martin
1998-09-01  0:00                                         ` Martin Dowie
1998-09-01  0:00                                       ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-02  0:00                                         ` dennison
1998-09-01  0:00                                   ` dewarr
1998-09-06  0:00                                 ` Jonathan Guthrie
1998-08-20  0:00                           ` Ell
1998-08-20  0:00                             ` Structured programming (Re: Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful)) Darren New
1998-08-21  0:00                               ` Gene Gajewski
1998-08-21  0:00                             ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Ell
1998-08-21  0:00                               ` John Goodsen
1998-08-21  0:00                                 ` Ell
1998-08-21  0:00                                   ` Ell
1998-08-21  0:00                               ` Larry Brasfield
1998-08-21  0:00                                 ` Ell
1998-08-21  0:00                                 ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-20  0:00                                   ` Phlip
1998-08-21  0:00                                   ` Larry Brasfield
     [not found]                                   ` <DOSXjHE9T6DM9Jw9nAyaPxfz@news.rdc1.bc.wave.home.com>
1998-08-22  0:00                                     ` dewar
1998-08-24  0:00                                       ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24  0:00                                         ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-24  0:00                                           ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-25  0:00                                             ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25  0:00                                               ` Mark A Biggar
1998-08-26  0:00                                                 ` Martin Dowie
1998-08-25  0:00                                         ` adam
1998-08-24  0:00                                       ` dennison
1998-08-28  0:00                                         ` Matthew Heaney
1998-08-28  0:00                                           ` dennison
1998-08-30  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-06  0:00                                               ` John G. Volan
1998-08-31  0:00                                             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-22  0:00                                       ` Charles H. Sampson
1998-08-21  0:00                                 ` Bob Collins
     [not found]                           ` <l5HC1.6840$wN.18 <35F238F7.F57D3EC7@earthlink.net>
1998-09-06  0:00                             ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
1998-10-21  0:00                           ` Is there a language that Dijkstra liked? (was: Re: Software landmines (loops)) Van Snyder
1998-10-22  0:00                             ` biocyn
1998-10-26  0:00                               ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26  0:00                                 ` Tucker Taft
1998-10-26  0:00                                   ` dennison
1998-10-26  0:00                                     ` Ehud Lamm
1998-10-26  0:00                                       ` Pat Rogers
1998-10-27  0:00                                       ` dennison
1998-10-27  0:00                                     ` bill
1998-10-27  0:00                                     ` Dave Wood
1998-10-28  0:00                                       ` norm
1998-10-27  0:00                                 ` dewarr
1998-10-27  0:00                                   ` Ehud Lamm
1998-11-04  0:00                                   ` business for students Domenico Bisignano
1998-08-20  0:00                         ` Software landmines (was: Why C++ is successful) Gerry Quinn
1998-08-16  0:00                   ` Jay Martin
1998-08-17  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14  0:00                 ` Why C++ is successful Ell
1998-08-17  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-17  0:00                     ` Patrick Logan
1998-08-18  0:00                       ` Samuel Tardieu
1998-08-25  0:00                       ` Optimizing recursion (was Re: Why C++ is successful) Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-25  0:00                         ` Darren New
1998-08-26  0:00                           ` Aaro Koskinen
1998-08-26  0:00                           ` Martin Tom Brown
1998-08-26  0:00                           ` Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]                       ` <EACHUS.98Aug25165110@s <6s43nq$m31$1@berlin.infomatch.com>
1998-08-27  0:00                         ` Constants vs Functions (was Re: Optimizing recursion...) Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-27  0:00                       ` Ray Blaak
1998-08-14  0:00                 ` Why C++ is successful Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-14  0:00                   ` Robert Martin
1998-08-16  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-16  0:00                       ` Robert Martin
1998-08-16  0:00                       ` Rick Smith
1998-08-17  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17  0:00                           ` Rick Smith
1998-08-15  0:00                   ` Mr Ada
1998-08-16  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-15  0:00                   ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-15  0:00                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-16  0:00                       ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17  0:00                         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1998-08-16  0:00                       ` Patrick Doyle
1998-08-16  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-11  0:00           ` stilcom
1998-08-11  0:00             ` Microsoft Authors [was Re: Why C++ is successful] john-clonts
1998-08-11  0:00               ` dennison
1998-08-11  0:00                 ` John Weiss
1998-08-12  0:00             ` Why C++ is successful Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-08-12  0:00               ` Code Complete (Was: Re: Why C++ is successful) Chris Kuan
1998-08-12  0:00               ` Why C++ is successful Andrew Koenig
1998-08-14  0:00               ` Stefan Tilkov
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m31zpxqutn.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-08-31  0:00             ` Software landmines (loops) Jim Cochrane
1998-09-01  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-02  0:00                 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-02  0:00                   ` Richard Melvin
1998-09-03  0:00                     ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-03  0:00                   ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-01  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC1590.D50DB8F6@tisny.com>
1998-09-01  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6sjms6$7c4$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02  0:00               ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02  0:00                 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-02  0:00                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                   ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02  0:00               ` Robert Martin
1998-09-02  0:00                 ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-02  0:00                   ` Robert Martin
1998-09-04  0:00                     ` Patrick Logan
1998-09-03  0:00               ` mfinney
1998-09-03  0:00                 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-03  0:00                 ` Robert Martin
1998-09-03  0:00                   ` Patrick Logan
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shhg4$llp$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02  0:00             ` Jim Cochrane
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <6shunm$47g$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-02  0:00             ` David E. Wallace
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <m3zpck79xp.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-02  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EDC648.76F03F32@draper.com>
1998-09-03  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03  0:00               ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-04  0:00                 ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-04  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-04  0:00                   ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-08  0:00                   ` Tim McDermott
1998-09-17  0:00                     ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17  0:00                       ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-18  0:00                       ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-09-18  0:00                         ` Jeffrey C. Dege
1998-09-03  0:00               ` Martin Tom Brown
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <904556531. <m3lno372be.fsf@mheaney.ni.net>
1998-09-03  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03  0:00             ` Patrick Doyle
1998-09-03  0:00               ` Loryn Jenkins
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35EC937F.94420C51@ibm.net>
1998-09-07  0:00             ` Michael F Brenner
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.48044143@ <m3af4mq7f4 <35F09429.1A7CD250@easystreet.com>
1998-09-07  0:00             ` Expressive Case Statements (was: Software landmines) Michael F Brenner
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.480<904556531.666222@ <6t42kg$son$1@hirame.wwa.com>
1998-09-08  0:00             ` Software landmines (loops) Patrick Doyle
     [not found]           ` <35f51e53.480 <904556531.66622 <EyyLos.2nx@yc.estec.esa.nl>
1998-09-08  0:00             ` duncan
1998-09-16  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-17  0:00                 ` Reimer Behrends
1998-09-17  0:00                   ` Ell
1998-09-08  0:00             ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-09  0:00               ` Charles Hixson
1998-09-10  0:00                 ` Loryn Jenkins
1998-09-17  0:00                 ` Matthew Heaney
1998-09-09  0:00               ` duncan
1998-09-11  0:00                 ` Jim Cochrane
1998-09-11  0:00                   ` duncan
1998-08-07  0:00   ` Why C++ is successful Robert Dewar
1998-08-08  0:00     ` Patrick Logan
1998-08-07  0:00 ` Jason Stokes
1998-08-08  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-10  0:00     ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-11  0:00     ` n
1998-08-12  0:00       ` Why C++ is successful? Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-12  0:00         ` Joe Gwinn
1998-08-13  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1998-08-14  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-14  0:00             ` nasser
1998-08-16  0:00               ` Chris Morgan
1998-08-17  0:00               ` asilvant
1998-08-14  0:00             ` Bob Munck
1998-08-16  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1998-08-17  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1998-08-13  0:00         ` Bob Munck
1998-08-14  0:00       ` Why C++ is successful Robert Dewar
     [not found]         ` <35D455AC.9225EAA7@hercii.mar.lmco.com>
1998-08-14  0:00           ` Robert L. Spooner
1998-08-10  0:00   ` Darren New
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1998-09-07  0:00 Software landmines (loops) Robert Martin
1998-09-08  0:00 ` Mike Spille
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