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From: Mark Atwood <mra@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: The Next Microsoft?
Date: 2000/05/05
Date: 2000-05-05T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d7n0x4nc.fsf@flash.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: t7zoq4c3ud.fsf@calumny.jyacc.com

Hyman Rosen <hymie@prolifics.com> writes:
> Mark Atwood <mra@pobox.com> writes:
> > That is the right way to do it. In a slightly more free-form manner,
> > it's very similar to how workhorses like Perl, Python and C (*not* C++)
> > have been evolving.
> 
> Not C++? The initial form of the language is the work of a single person,
> Bjarne Stroustroup, who developed it incrementally, giving out versions
> to users and accepting feedback.

Early C++, you are right. But once the committee started on it, they
could never say no to any seriously proposed feature, so now the language
is too big for the human brain.

Nobody uses C++, they only use either a preferred or a
in-house-mandated subset dialect.

> The enhancement of templates in C++ into their modern form was due to the
> desire of the standardization committee to adopt the Standard Template
> Library into the standard. This library was the work of Alexander Stepanov.

True, the STL model is nice and can fit in one competent brain. Pity
that it's realized in such a horrible language.

But all this is just a well pounded grease spot on the road, where
there used to be a dead horse.

-- 
Mark Atwood   | It is the hardest thing for intellectuals to understand, that
mra@pobox.com | just because they haven't thought of something, somebody else
              | might. <http://www.friesian.com/rifkin.htm>
http://www.pobox.com/~mra




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2000-05-05  0:00       ` The Next Microsoft? Ray Blaak
2000-05-05  0:00         ` Mark Atwood
2000-05-05  0:00           ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-05  0:00             ` Mark Atwood [this message]
2000-05-05  0:00               ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-05  0:00                 ` Jon S Anthony
2000-05-05  0:00                   ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-05  0:00                     ` Bill Greene
2000-05-06  0:00                       ` Ehud Lamm
2000-05-07  0:00                       ` STL, Ada, C++ (Was Re: The Next Microsoft?) Brian Rogoff
2000-05-08  0:00                         ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-07  0:00                           ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-08  0:00                           ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-08  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-09  0:00                             ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-09  0:00                               ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-09  0:00                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-09  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-09  0:00                                     ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-09  0:00                                 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-10  0:00                                 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-10  0:00                                   ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-08  0:00                           ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-08  0:00                             ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-08  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-08  0:00                                 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-09  0:00                                 ` STL, Ada, C++ Harry Erwin
2000-05-09  0:00                                   ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-09  0:00                               ` STL, Ada, C++ (Was Re: The Next Microsoft?) Marin D. Condic
2000-05-09  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-09  0:00                                   ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-08  0:00                         ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-05  0:00                     ` The Next Microsoft? Jon S Anthony
2000-05-05  0:00           ` Ayende Rahien
2000-05-05  0:00         ` Bobby D. Bryant
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