From: Ludovic Brenta <ludovic.brenta@insalien.org>
Subject: Re: ISO/IEC 14519 - Ada POSIX binding
Date: 22 Jun 2003 00:28:48 +0200
Date: 2003-06-22T00:28:48+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3brwrrrof.fsf@insalien.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ZwV4HxdnEIJ6@eisner.encompasserve.org
Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:
> VMS direct IP access uses the QIO system service which returns
> status on every call and after every IO completion. Layering a
> C-language socket structure on top of that introduces the awful
> "errno" business. Now should an IP package for Ada go through that
> C-language layer and try to undo the "errno" business, or should it
> call the QIO system service directly and never get tied up in
> "errno" at all ?
The POSIX.5 Ada interface does not have to be implemented on top of
the C interface, so on VMS, a well-written Ada binding would call the
QIO service directly.
As noted elsewhere in this thread, POSIX.5 uses an exception
(Posix.Posix_Error) to report that an error occurred, and an
"errno"-like variable to specify what kind of error occurred. Thanks
to the exception, a lot of the ugliness goes away, and thanks to the
variable, it is easier to add new error codes to POSIX.5 without
breaking existing apps.
> > Furthermore, I would think that anyone designing
> > a new OS in the next ten years would want to make it POSIX-compliant,
> > because it would be too difficult to try an impose an alternative API.
> > In fact, you've probably noticed that even the MVS and z/OS mainframe
> > operating systems became POSIX-compliant for just that reason.
>
> When VMS added Posix-compliant calls it was to allow C programmers
> to use it in a fashion to which they were accustomed. They did
> _not_ force all programmers to use those C conventions. Is the MVS
> situation somehow more restrictive ?
No, the other interfaces to the same operating system services are
still available (note the plural: there are several for different
languages like assembler, PL/I and Rexx). The addition of a POSIX
interface just makes it easier to port applications to mainframes,
which in today's world appears to be a condition for survival.
--
Ludovic Brenta.
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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-06-19 21:43 ISO/IEC 14519 - Ada POSIX binding Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-19 21:29 ` tmoran
2003-06-28 23:48 ` Richard Riehle
2003-06-20 11:57 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-20 14:08 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-20 16:39 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-20 18:33 ` tmoran
2003-06-20 19:09 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-21 19:14 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-21 19:42 ` tmoran
2003-06-21 21:04 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-06-29 15:05 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-20 19:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-06-20 20:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-20 20:49 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-06-20 23:05 ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-21 1:49 ` David Emery
2003-06-21 19:19 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-21 21:47 ` David Emery
2003-06-21 22:22 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-23 16:13 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-23 22:41 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-24 9:52 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-24 20:43 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-25 9:02 ` Pascal Obry
2003-06-25 9:46 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-06-25 21:19 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-21 13:01 ` Pascal Obry
2003-06-21 12:11 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-21 12:44 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-21 13:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-21 22:28 ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2003-06-22 3:45 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-06-22 8:47 ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-23 16:36 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-24 11:46 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-21 19:09 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-21 22:38 ` Mark Lorenzen
2003-06-21 22:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-06-23 16:54 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-24 11:49 ` Marin David Condic
2003-06-24 13:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-23 16:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-06-23 22:43 ` Berend de Boer
2003-06-29 15:10 ` Florian Weimer
2003-06-29 20:58 ` David Emery
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