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From: Preben Randhol <randhol@pvv.org>
Subject: Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.
Date: 1999/09/28
Date: 1999-09-28T17:25:38+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3905rgd73.fsf@kiuk0156.chembio.ntnu.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7sqmk6$1ck3@drn.newsguy.com

bill@yy writes:

| seriously, one of the biggest problems I see is that many
| programmers do NOT read the code. They try something, it failes, jump
| into the debugger, set up a test, buy new hardware, hire more testers,
| run a profiler, etc.. they do all that, except actualy EXAMINE the code !

If you look at serious corporations were the safety of the code is
crucial (or at least have priority) you will find this proof
reading. If you however look at corporations like Microsoft etc... it
is doubtfully that they do.
 
| How often do you see a programmer make a printout of their code, and
| go ask another programmer to code review the code with them?  How often
| do you a programmer print their own code and look at it? I mean really
| look at it? 

After starting to read my own code, I was amazed of how many bugs you
can spot. I think somewhere between 60 to 80% would be a fair
estimate*, at least that is my experience.

* This is however depended on that the language _is_ "readable"
-- 
Preben Randhol     [randhol@pvv.org]    [http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/] 
 "If you had just boarded an airliner and discovered that your team 
  of programmers had been responsible for the flight control software, 
  how many of you would disembark immediately?"             -- unknown




  parent reply	other threads:[~1999-09-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-09-27  0:00 Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses the middleman
1999-09-27  0:00 ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ray Blaak
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert A Duff
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Simon Wright
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00         ` Pragma (was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses.) Preben Randhol
1999-09-30  0:00           ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00       ` p.obry
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Richard D Riehle
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00           ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00         ` David Starner
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` GNAT listing file default names (was: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses) Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-28  0:00       ` David Botton
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00             ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00         ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00           ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00               ` Ed Falis
1999-09-29  0:00                 ` Gautier
1999-09-29  0:00                 ` tmoran
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00               ` Alfred Hilscher
1999-09-30  0:00                 ` Gautier
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` Ehud Lamm
1999-09-30  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                       ` <7t2e1l$lqt2@ftp.kvaerner.com>
     [not found]                         ` <37F91D6E.58685CFE@mitre.org>
     [not found]                           ` <7tf7uo$h2b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
     [not found]                             ` <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
1999-10-18  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-10-19  0:00                                 ` Code size of Ada ? Robert I. Eachus
     [not found]                           ` <7tf7uo <37FBA978.A86762F1@mitre.org>
     [not found]                             ` <5OkO3.2$1e.659@typhoon.nyu.edu>
1999-10-19  0:00                               ` Code size of Ada ? was Re: Ada95 Strengths/Weaknesses Robert I. Eachus
1999-09-30  0:00                   ` tmoran
1999-09-29  0:00             ` Ted Dennison
1999-09-28  0:00   ` the middleman
1999-09-27  0:00 ` Marin David Condic
1999-09-27  0:00   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Hyman Rosen
1999-09-28  0:00         ` Ed Falis
1999-09-28  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-09-28  0:00       ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-28  0:00         ` bill
1999-09-27  0:00           ` Aidan Skinner
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Preben Randhol [this message]
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-09-28  0:00           ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-28  0:00   ` Preben Randhol
1999-09-27  0:00 ` J. David Bryan
1999-09-27  0:00 ` Steve Doiel
1999-09-28  0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-09-28  0:00 ` Geoff Bull
1999-09-29  0:00   ` the middleman
1999-09-29  0:00     ` Robert A Duff
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