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From: Ronald Cole <ronald@forte-intl.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT and GCC 3.0
Date: 05 Dec 2001 12:58:00 -0800
Date: 2001-12-05T12:58:00-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m37ks1crl3.fsf@yakisoba.forte-intl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: m3669o0y2u.fsf@yakisoba.forte-inOrganization: LJK Software <TcK5AtkXbXj1@eisner.encompasserve.org

Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:
> In article <m3669o0y2u.fsf@yakisoba.forte-intl.com>, Ronald Cole <ronald@forte-intl.com> writes:
> > dewar@gnat.com (Robert Dewar) writes:
> >> This is a fabrication. No such "threat" was made at any
> >> time to any of our customers. We are not in the business
> >> of threatening customers. This is simply a fantasy that
> >> Mr. Cole has constructed (for what reasons I do not know).
> > 
> > I still have our email discussion between you, me and rms from June
> > 1997 where you clearly state that you considered having wavefront
> > sources out in the public to be so dangerious that you would seriously
> > consider not giving wavefront releases to customers who were
> > exercising their GPL rights and giving them to me.  You specifically
> > used the example of Stallman getting steamed that a Linux distribution
> > released an internal version of gcc that he didn't intend for public
> > consumption to support your position.
> 
> So who was the customer who was "threatened" ?  RMS ?

Read it for yourself:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+wavefront+group:comp.lang.ada+author:dewar%40merv.cs.nyu.edu&hl=en&as_drrb=b&as_mind=29&as_minm=3&as_miny=1997&as_maxd=5&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=1997&rnum=1&selm=dewar.871738278%40merv&filter=0>

Specifically, Mr. Dewar said:

"If people started distributing wavefront versions freely, then w [sic]
would probably reluctantly decide to stop making them available, since
it would be clear that their distribution was harmful. That would be
too bad for the cases where they really solve a problem."

Since wavefronts were/are only sent to customers of ACT, it's not too
hard to figure out that this was a veiled threat to them about
exercising their right under the GPL to send me copies.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-05 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-02 15:47 GNAT and GCC 3.0 G. Fisher
2001-10-02 17:54 ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-04 18:38   ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-05  8:39     ` Juanma Barranquero
2001-10-06 14:24       ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-07 10:23         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-08  7:53         ` Juanma Barranquero
2001-10-05 23:06     ` Britt Snodgrass
2001-10-06  6:58       ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-06 17:51       ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-08 11:24         ` Steffen Huber
2001-10-10  6:07           ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-11  4:02         ` David Brown
2001-10-11  9:24           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-02 18:21 ` David Starner
2001-10-02 20:22   ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-02 21:21     ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03  0:02       ` David Starner
2001-10-03 13:58         ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-03  4:02 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-04 22:58   ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-05 15:08     ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-07  2:38       ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-06 14:39     ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-07  2:30       ` David Botton
2001-10-08  9:10         ` John English
2001-10-08 10:38           ` Samuel Tardieu
2001-10-08 12:06             ` John English
2001-10-08 14:39               ` Aidan Skinner
2001-10-08 15:05               ` David Botton
2001-10-08 19:40                 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2001-10-09 22:22                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-11 12:08                   ` David Botton
2001-10-09 15:17               ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 15:46                 ` Steven Deller
2001-10-09 17:34                   ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-09 22:31                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-09 16:53                 ` Wes Groleau
2001-10-09 22:25                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-09 22:20               ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-15  8:08                 ` John English
2001-10-09 22:16             ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-08 14:54           ` David Botton
2001-10-09 22:18         ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-11 12:16           ` David Botton
2001-10-07 15:28       ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-07 22:30         ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-08  3:27           ` David Starner
2001-10-08 13:51             ` Pat Rogers
2001-10-09 21:00               ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  6:11                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-10  7:10                   ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  9:59                   ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                   ` <m3669o0y2u.fsf@yakisoba.forte-inOrganization: LJK Software <TcK5AtkXbXj1@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2001-10-10 16:30                     ` Florian Weimer
2001-12-05 20:58                     ` Ronald Cole [this message]
2001-12-05 21:35                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-05 23:45                         ` Ronald Cole
2001-12-06  5:27                           ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-06 17:32                             ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-06 20:04                               ` Simon Wright
2001-12-07  1:59                               ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-07 16:44                                 ` Ted Dennison
2001-12-07  1:43                             ` Florian Weimer
2001-12-07 14:42                               ` Stephen Leake
2001-12-07 21:06                                 ` Florian Weimer
2001-12-08  4:24                                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-08  4:25                                   ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-08 12:35                                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-12-06 17:04                           ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-05 21:39                       ` Wes Groleau
2001-12-05 21:52                       ` Pat Rogers
2001-12-05 23:35                         ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  6:23                 ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-10  7:38                   ` Ronald Cole
2001-10-10  9:01                   ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-10 17:06                     ` Ted Dennison
2001-10-11  9:22                       ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-12  9:10                         ` Florian Weimer
2001-10-12 10:03                           ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2001-10-13  2:07                     ` Robert Dewar
2001-10-03  7:24 ` Rob_NOWHERE.
2001-10-03  8:13   ` Pascal Obry
2001-10-03 12:08   ` Claude SIMON
2001-10-03 16:17   ` Robert Dewar
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