From: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Do I Really Need A Supervisor?
Date: 1997/03/20
Date: 1997-03-20T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zpvzum92.fsf@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5g7u24$1jeg@uni.library.ucla.edu
"David Taylor" <dtaylor@iquest.com> writes:
>
> In article <33285CC6.1CFB@ss5010.ca.boeing.com>, Randall Edick
> <rre9518@ss5010.ca.boeing.com> wrote:
>
> >Jay Martin wrote:
> >>
> >> Auntie Alias <antialias@earthlink.net> writes:
> >>
> >> >Do I Really Need A Supervisor?
> >>
> >> >I work for a well known aerospace firm developing embeddded
> [[snip]]
> >SAY IT BROTHER.
> >
> >Please see the other items I posted today. I'm fed up with this
> >nonsense, and I'm telling my supervision.
> >
> >Where would we be without managment? An excellent example is
> >Linux. NO MANAGEMENT. One of the largest, most complex, best
> >technical, best selling efforts of all time. All done by techies
> >over the internet.
>
> Another example is the Internet itself. There is no one "in charge". There
> is some real crap on the Internet, but there is a lot of real genius.
>
> dave
The Internet, well I don't know, but it is not a software development
project, either
I would argue that Linux does have management. We have Linus at the
helm and then a host of other people responsible for various things
and then a host of developers who feed into them. The question is not
whether management exists (can you image one huge CVS repository with
everybody making changes in it) but the quality of management. Linux
has rather defacto management and they are all technical and
interested in technical issues and "doing the right thing" (very
little if any politics). Therefore they produce a very high quality
technical product.
So the problem is not management (which I would argue is impossible to
work without), but it is human nature (or "sin nature" as Christians
call it, which is a better description IMHO). Somehow Linux has
largely avoided it. NetBSD and FreeBSD haven't avoided it and Linux
passed them by. Any organization that can avoid it will do very well,
but I have never seen one that has that has reached any size at all.
--
Corey Minyard Internet: minyard@acm.org
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1997-03-12 0:00 Do I Really Need A Supervisor? Auntie Alias
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Randall Edick
1997-03-14 0:00 ` David Taylor
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-03-17 0:00 ` Randall Edick
1997-03-17 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18 0:00 ` Randall Edick
1997-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-19 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-21 0:00 ` Richard A. O'Keefe
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-24 0:00 ` the one and only real true kibo
1997-03-21 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-03-21 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-03-21 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-03-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-21 0:00 ` John G. Volan
1997-03-14 0:00 ` John Apa
1997-03-17 0:00 ` Graham C. Hughes
1997-03-19 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <01bc3276$57fc1800$0902a8c0@alice>
1997-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-18 0:00 ` Jay Martin
1997-03-18 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-20 0:00 ` Corey Minyard [this message]
1997-03-24 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-25 0:00 ` L. Darrell Ray
1997-03-27 0:00 ` duncan
1997-04-10 0:00 ` BAT0000000
1997-03-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-27 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1997-03-27 0:00 ` Michael Malak
1997-03-28 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1997-03-13 0:00 ` David Wheeler
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-13 0:00 ` David Brown
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-15 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-17 0:00 ` Norman H. Cohen
1997-03-17 0:00 ` antialias
1997-03-18 0:00 ` nasser
1997-03-20 0:00 ` John Apa
1997-03-19 0:00 ` John Apa
1997-03-19 0:00 ` antialias
[not found] ` <33301E64.110E@delphi.dasd.honeywe <3330BE71.695@earthlink.net>
1997-03-20 0:00 ` jim hopper
1997-03-20 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Laurent Guerby
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-03-13 0:00 ` Mats Weber
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-03-14 0:00 ` Adam Beneschan
1997-03-21 0:00 ` antialias
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