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From: David Kastrup <dak@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>
Subject: Re: GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?)
Date: 1999/04/28
Date: 1999-04-28T09:38:53+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2so9lccbw.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 7g5ju3$qpb$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com

Robert Dewar <robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com> writes:

> A similar situation arises with Cygnus today, they invest
> substantial resources to help with the maintenance of the
> Cygnus tree, and those resources are enormously helpful to
> the gcc community at large, not just to Cygnus.
> 
> That leads some people to harbour suspicions
> that Cygnus really secretly controls the process and
> somehow twists it to serve their own ends, but really this
> is quite absurd, and does not correspond at all to the
> reality of the situation.

It *does* correspond to the reality of the situation as Cygnus invests
considerable manpower in the process.  In a way, they are preparing
well-trodden paths that are convenient for their purposes by investing
appropriate resources.  If they are not interested in some direction
of work, they'll leave it to other parties.

While I find no wrong with that, it would be foolish to deny that the
willingness to invest a large amount of work in GCC *does* have a
large influence on what direction the compiler development is taking.

If a few larger vendors realized this somewhat more (Intel seems to
have waken up to it somewhat recently), this could only help GCC
development.  CPU manufacturers actually should have an even larger
interest as Cygnus in getting actively involved in GCC.  It lends
large value improvements to their products with minimal costs.


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  reply	other threads:[~1999-04-28  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-04-17  0:00 Ada compiler for PC? Michael Feher
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-04-18  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-04-20  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-20  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-20  0:00       ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) SpamSpamSpam
1999-04-21  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-21  0:00           ` Glen
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-21  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-21  0:00               ` root
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                   ` Glen
1999-04-23  0:00                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-22  0:00                       ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Russell Senior
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                               ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Samuel Mize
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` Robert Dewar
     [not found]                             ` <7fqld6$htu$1@nnrp1.dej <1999Apr23.172908.1@eisner>
     [not found]                               ` <7frqmj$bg6$1@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au>
1999-04-24  0:00                                 ` Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-25  0:00                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-25  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                     ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                       ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                                         ` Maciej Stachowiak
1999-04-26  0:00                                         ` Per Bothner
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Stan Shebs
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-27  0:00                                             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-04-28  0:00                                               ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-28  0:00                                                 ` David Kastrup [this message]
1999-04-28  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-29  0:00                                                 ` Per Bothner
1999-04-30  0:00                                                   ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00                                                   ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00                                                     ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                       ` Mike Stump
1999-05-06  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-06  0:00                                                           ` Andi Kleen
1999-05-06  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-07  0:00                                                           ` Mike Stump
1999-05-07  0:00                                                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                       ` Pascal F. Martin
1999-05-08  0:00                                                         ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-08  0:00                                                           ` bill
1999-05-17  0:00                                                   ` Richard Kenner
1999-05-19  0:00                                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-04-27  0:00                                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                               ` Fergus Henderson
1999-04-24  0:00                             ` Russ Allbery
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` bourguet
1999-04-25  0:00                           ` Geoffrey KEATING
1999-04-25  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-25  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) David Starner
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                                 ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) Geoffrey KEATING
     [not found]                             ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a509d0d9@aasaa.ofe.org>
1999-04-26  0:00                               ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00                             ` GNAT versions ( was :Ada compiler for PC?) bourguet
1999-04-23  0:00                         ` Pascal Obry
1999-04-23  0:00                           ` dennison
1999-04-23  0:00                             ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-24  0:00                           ` Christopher Browne
1999-04-24  0:00                       ` Ronald Cole
1999-04-22  0:00                 ` dennison
1999-04-20  0:00       ` Ada compiler for PC? Tom Moran
1999-04-17  0:00 ` Steven Hovater
1999-04-18  0:00 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
     [not found] ` <7fua23$fgh$1@nnrp1 <37234dca.a <1999Apr25.201259.1@eisner>
1999-04-25  0:00   ` EGCS & GNAT Was (Re: GNAT versions) Leslie Mikesell
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-04-26  0:00       ` Robert Dewar
1999-05-04  0:00         ` Mike Stump
1999-05-05  0:00           ` Robert Dewar
1999-04-26  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
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