From: Johan Kullstam <kullstam@ne.mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Beginner's Language?
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 13:37:38 GMT
Date: 2001-06-02T13:37:38+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2snhjuhp2.fsf@euler.axel.nom> (raw)
In-Reply-To: vzjR6.2581$_K5.381611@news.uswest.net
"Frank A. Adrian" <fadrian@uswest.net> writes:
> P.S. Any language where you can add two positive numbers together and get a
> negative number is inherently broken.
it depends upon what you mean by "number" and what you mean by
"negative". sometimes you really do want to work in the ring
Z_{2^32}. e.g., i often represent angles in terms of 2^32 quanta per
revolution. when the 32 bit "int" wraps, so does the angle --
exactly as intended.
i agree that it is a pain to have no way to use integers Z, but are
forced to choose among Z_{2^N} for a few ill-defined choices of N.
> It is a sign of the language designer and compiler writer choosing
> their own convenience over yours.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[kullstam@ne.mediaone.net]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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2001-05-31 0:41 Beginner's Language? robin
2001-05-31 4:15 ` Frank A. Adrian
2001-05-31 15:34 ` Wes Groleau
2001-05-31 19:22 ` David Thornley
2001-06-02 13:37 ` Johan Kullstam [this message]
2001-06-02 15:46 ` Frank A. Adrian
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