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From: cm@mihalis.demon.co.uk (Chris Morgan)
Subject: Re: Ada95 OOP Questions
Date: 1996/08/10
Date: 1996-08-10T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2rapfl95q.fsf@mihalis.demon.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4u4ln3$fur@mailsrv2.erno.de


In article <dewar.839329517@schonberg> dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:

   It is hard
   for me to believe that there are Ada environments with no better 
   capabilities than grep for finding things.

You better believe it!

  Without being too specific, a company I used to work for delivered a
1.5 mloc Ada system that was built on VAXes using mostly edt or tpu as
the editor. We didn't even have grep but DCL search is better than
nothing. There were no tools to help you other than these and the
compiler itself (which was not DEC Ada unfortunately). We did have an
old version of DEC LSE for Ada but nobody used it due to various
problems. Not surprisingly use clauses were discouraged in all
deliverable code. In fact the mindset was so prevalent I would find
myself banning use clauses for text_io in my own code.

  Before anyone asks why I nobody bothered to add some PD software for
VAXes, this was a host environment where you weren't really supposed
to even have much in your login.com file, let alone special
software.

  [Oh and I also had a vt terminal only and sometimes could
only get at the target hardware by taking potluck on Saturday
afternoons if the other teams were not using it. Such is the lot of
the poor benighted embedded systems programmer. I digress..]

  Perhaps the response is "that is not an Ada environment". Quite :-)

  Anyway that was then and now I mix and match to suit choosing to use
use for some packages and not for others. There is a middle way of
better readability through renames and use type clauses. I'm still
experimenting with the balance. 

Chris

chris.morgan@baesema.co.uk




  parent reply	other threads:[~1996-08-10  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-07-28  0:00 Ada95 OOP Questions Spasmo
1996-07-28  0:00 ` Andre Spiegel
1996-07-28  0:00   ` Spasmo
1996-07-29  0:00     ` Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-07-31  0:00       ` Spasmo
1996-08-01  0:00         ` Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-08-02  0:00         ` Gene Ouye
1996-08-01  0:00       ` Jon S Anthony
1996-07-30  0:00     ` Ken Garlington
1996-08-04  0:00       ` Spasmo
1996-07-30  0:00     ` David Wheeler
1996-07-31  0:00       ` Spasmo
1996-07-28  0:00 ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
1996-07-28  0:00   ` Spasmo
1996-07-29  0:00 ` Andre Spiegel
1996-07-29  0:00   ` Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-08-02  0:00     ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-05  0:00       ` Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-08-06  0:00         ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-06  0:00           ` Thomas Kendelbacher
1996-08-06  0:00             ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-07  0:00               ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-08  0:00                 ` Robert A Duff
1996-08-09  0:00                   ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-12  0:00             ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-08-08  0:00           ` Theodore E. Dennison
1996-08-09  0:00             ` Robert Dewar
1996-08-12  0:00             ` Joel VanLaven
1996-08-06  0:00         ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-08-10  0:00         ` Chris Morgan [this message]
1996-07-29  0:00   ` David Wheeler
1996-07-30  0:00     ` Spasmo
1996-07-30  0:00     ` Spasmo
1996-07-30  0:00 ` Andre Spiegel
1996-07-30  0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
1996-07-30  0:00 ` Andre Spiegel
1996-08-01  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-08-13  0:00 ` Eric C. Newton
1996-08-14  0:00 ` Eric C. Newton
1996-08-14  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-08-14  0:00 ` Ken Garlington
1996-08-21  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
1996-08-08  0:00 W. Wesley Groleau (Wes)
1996-08-20  0:00 Farshad Nayeri
1996-08-21  0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1996-08-20  0:00 Farshad Nayeri
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