From: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Looking for implementation idea
Date: 1999/02/07
Date: 1999-02-07T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2lni9hawp.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: F6tAGK.CsE.0.-s@inmet.camb.inmet.com
stt@houdini.camb.inmet.com (Tucker Taft) writes:
> : Thanks for the reply. I would expect the average programmer would
> : think of a protected type like a Java one, something more
> : semaphore-like. I knew that it wasn't (and I know the reasons), but I
> : would expect that when the average programmer puts something in a
> : protected type they would expect it to be "protected" by mutex, which
> : wouldn't happen on an SMP machine, but would on a uniprocessor one.
>
> I've lost you here. What "wouldn't happen on an SMP machine?"
>
> On an SMP operating system, O/S mutexes work across processors.
>
> : So should I now put spin-locks in all my protected type operations so
> : they will provide mutex on SMP machines (if mutex is what I am looking
> : for, which I expect is their most common use)?
>
> No, now I must have really confused you. The *implementation* of
> protected types generally uses spin locks on a multi-processor (though
> other mechanisms are also possible). The programmer need not worry
> about this at all: mutual exclusion is provided by protected types, even
> if there are multiple processors.
>
Thanks. That clears things up substantually! I thought that
protected types were a priority-only thing, that they had no mutex
built-in. They obviously still use priority, but are a more general
purpose mutex. I guess I should have looked at the RM (9.5.1), it's
pretty clear there.
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1999-02-07 0:00 Looking for implementation idea Thomas Handler
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Paul Duquennoy
1999-02-08 0:00 ` Thomas Handler
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-08 0:00 ` dewar
1999-02-08 0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-08 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Corey Minyard [this message]
1999-02-08 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08 0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-08 0:00 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-09 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-11 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-08 0:00 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Tom Moran
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08 0:00 ` Thomas Handler
1999-02-07 0:00 ` Niklas Holsti
1999-02-08 0:00 ` Thomas Handler
1999-02-09 0:00 ` Niklas Holsti
1999-02-10 0:00 ` Thomas Handler
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