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From: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Looking for implementation idea
Date: 1999/02/07
Date: 1999-02-07T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2lni9hawp.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: F6tAGK.CsE.0.-s@inmet.camb.inmet.com

stt@houdini.camb.inmet.com (Tucker Taft) writes:
> : Thanks for the reply.  I would expect the average programmer would
> : think of a protected type like a Java one, something more
> : semaphore-like.  I knew that it wasn't (and I know the reasons), but I
> : would expect that when the average programmer puts something in a
> : protected type they would expect it to be "protected" by mutex, which
> : wouldn't happen on an SMP machine, but would on a uniprocessor one.
> 
> I've lost you here.  What "wouldn't happen on an SMP machine?"
> 
> On an SMP operating system, O/S mutexes work across processors.
> 
> : So should I now put spin-locks in all my protected type operations so
> : they will provide mutex on SMP machines (if mutex is what I am looking
> : for, which I expect is their most common use)?
> 
> No, now I must have really confused you.  The *implementation* of
> protected types generally uses spin locks on a multi-processor (though
> other mechanisms are also possible).  The programmer need not worry
> about this at all: mutual exclusion is provided by protected types, even 
> if there are multiple processors.
> 

Thanks.  That clears things up substantually!  I thought that
protected types were a priority-only thing, that they had no mutex
built-in.  They obviously still use priority, but are a more general
purpose mutex.  I guess I should have looked at the RM (9.5.1), it's
pretty clear there.

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Corey Minyard                   Internet:  minyard@acm.org
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  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-07  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-02-07  0:00 Looking for implementation idea Thomas Handler
1999-02-07  0:00 ` Paul Duquennoy
1999-02-08  0:00   ` Thomas Handler
1999-02-07  0:00 ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-07  0:00   ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-08  0:00     ` dewar
1999-02-08  0:00       ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07  0:00   ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-07  0:00     ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08  0:00       ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-07  0:00         ` Corey Minyard [this message]
1999-02-08  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00     ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00       ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-09  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-11  0:00           ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-08  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07  0:00   ` Tom Moran
1999-02-07  0:00     ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08  0:00   ` Thomas Handler
1999-02-07  0:00 ` Niklas Holsti
1999-02-08  0:00   ` Thomas Handler
1999-02-09  0:00     ` Niklas Holsti
1999-02-10  0:00       ` Thomas Handler
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