From: Ronald Cole <ronald@devo.ridgecrest.ca.us>
Subject: Re: what DOES the GPL really say?
Date: 1997/08/25
Date: 1997-08-25T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2en7hnc0a.fsf@devo.ridgecrest.ca.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: dewar.872121736@merv
Excellent filibuster, Robert! Not only, didn't you answer my
challenge, but you aptly demonstrated that you still couldn't be
bothered to actually read what I've been writing!!
Still, you post some directly verifiable "policies" of ACT. Let's see
how they fair, eh?
dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes:
> There is warrantied
> software that is unreliable, and there is unwarrantied software that is
> reliable. ACT works hard to make sure that the publicly available vesions
> of GNAT fall into the second category.
"Publicly available versions of GNAT are reliable". Please define
"reliable", Robert. I've already demonstrated that by following your
own meticulous instructions, that public version 3.09 was unable to
bootstrap itself with the binary release due to a bad bug fix you
chose to include just a day before you made the release.
> Yes, we understand that the enthusiasts around (like Ronald...)
> do not care about reliability.
On the contrary, Robert! Concern about the "reliability" of your
public releases is what prompted my first post on the subject!
> ACT has established a set of policies for handling GNAT releases that
> concentrate first and foremost on providing high reliability.
Which policy was it that allowed you to place a bug fix in a public
release that was clearly untested by your myriad of customers on the
HPUX platform, and which clearly had to come to the attention of the
ACT employee that performed the HPUX port?
> I think that from our point of view, enough has been said in this thread
> which has not been a particularly productive one, and this will act as
> our final statement in the matter.
If your 3.10 HPUX binary release can compile every file in the 3.10
source distribution with at least -O optimization to create a
byte-identical copy of gnat1, then I would have to say that part of
this thread was *very* productive.
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1997-05-28 0:00 gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-05-29 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-05-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-07 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <m2vi3kpuay.fsf@devo.ridgenet.net>
1997-06-12 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-12 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-13 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-13 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Dale Pontius
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Dale Pontius
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Andrew Lynch
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-06-19 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Arthur Schwarz
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 CHARLET Arnaud
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-18 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Samuel Tardieu
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-16 0:00 ` Building gnat-3.10 from source (was: gnat-3.10) Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-17 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Pascal Obry
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-20 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-22 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-23 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Corey Minyard
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-06-23 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-27 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-28 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Larry Kilgallen
1997-06-28 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Fergus Henderson
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 James Rogers
1997-07-03 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Philip Brashear
1997-07-08 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-10 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-07-11 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 David Kastrup
1997-06-30 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-07-03 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Daniel R Risacher
1997-07-04 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 David Kastrup
1997-07-03 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Joerg Rodemann
1997-06-23 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-06-23 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-06-24 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Spam Hater
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-25 0:00 ` Paul D. Smith
1997-06-25 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Dale Stanbrough
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 James Rogers
1997-07-02 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Richard Kenner
1997-06-26 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Richard Kenner
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` GLADE and GPL (was: what DOES the GPL really say?) Roy T. Fielding
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-27 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-30 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-07-03 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-04 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-02 0:00 ` David Weller
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Roy T. Fielding
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Stefan Monnier
1997-06-29 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <dewar.867554947@merv>
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Roy T. Fielding
[not found] ` <dewar.867556141@merv>
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Roy T. Fielding
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-26 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Robert Dewar
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` user
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` user
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Kai Henningsen
1997-07-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Stephen Leake
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Samuel Mize
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-27 0:00 ` kdp0101
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-26 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-28 0:00 ` Olivier Galibert
[not found] ` <dewar.867554739@merv>
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Jon S Anthony
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Richard Watts
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-03 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-04 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-04 0:00 ` Olivier Galibert
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Bill Gribble
1997-07-09 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-09 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-09 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-09 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Steve Peltz
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-14 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-20 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-07-22 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-07-23 0:00 ` W. Wesley Groleau x4923
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-23 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Joe Buck
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-24 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-24 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-07-25 0:00 ` B.Stephens
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-27 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Samuel Tardieu
1997-07-21 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-23 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1997-07-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-07-30 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1997-08-04 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-05 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-08-09 0:00 ` David Masterson
1997-08-11 0:00 ` David Kastrup
[not found] ` <dewar.870872644@merv>
[not found] ` <dewar.870873584@merv>
1997-08-12 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-13 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-08-13 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-15 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Thomas Koenig
1997-08-17 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-20 0:00 ` Mike Stump
1997-08-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Paul Lyon
1997-08-22 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Thomas Koenig
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] ` <EFIyr0.Erq@kithrup.com>
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1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-08-27 0:00 ` Simon Wright
1997-08-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-21 0:00 ` egcs (Re: what DOES the GPL really say?) Marinos J. Yannikos
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Andreas Schwab
1997-08-20 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? Ronald Cole
1997-08-20 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-25 0:00 ` Ronald Cole [this message]
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1997-09-02 0:00 ` Ted Goldblatt
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Hwa-Jin Bae
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Ted Goldblatt
1997-09-03 0:00 ` Hwa-Jin Bae
1997-09-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Mark Wooding
1997-09-09 0:00 ` Isaac
1997-09-08 0:00 ` Ted Goldblatt
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
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1997-08-12 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-12 0:00 ` Chris Morgan
1997-08-16 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-08-19 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-21 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-08-25 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
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1997-08-29 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-08-30 0:00 ` Toon Moene
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1997-08-31 0:00 ` Toon Moene
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Craig Burley
1997-09-01 0:00 ` Craig Burley
1997-09-02 0:00 ` Ronald Cole
1997-09-05 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-09-06 0:00 ` Remy Card
1997-09-07 0:00 ` rosalia
1997-09-10 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-09-11 0:00 ` egcs. Was: " David Kastrup
1997-08-13 0:00 ` David Kastrup
1997-07-23 0:00 ` David Kastrup
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1997-07-05 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-05 0:00 ` user
1997-07-05 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-07-05 0:00 ` Paul Eggert
1997-07-07 0:00 ` Leslie Mikesell
1997-07-06 0:00 ` user
1997-07-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-06 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Scott Michel
1997-07-01 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Rand Kant Hegel with Aristotle ? Wes Groleau
1997-07-07 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-07-08 0:00 ` Michael F Brenner
1997-07-09 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-07-02 0:00 ` what DOES the GPL really say? David Weller
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Thomas Bushnell, n/BSG
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Mark Atwood
1997-07-02 0:00 ` Matthew S. Whiting
1997-07-06 0:00 ` Stefan Monnier
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-30 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
1997-06-27 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
1997-06-16 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Joerg Rodemann
1997-06-17 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Ronald Cole
1997-06-12 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Stephen Leake
1997-06-14 0:00 ` gnat-3.10 Jerry van Dijk
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