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From: Corey Minyard <minyard@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Open Source Licensing (was: Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future)
Date: 1999/02/09
Date: 1999-02-09T00:00:00+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2d83jz71f.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 79pdpd$42v$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com

robert_dewar@my-dejanews.com writes:

> In article <m2btj4hbbs.fsf@wf-rch.cirr.com>,
>   minyard@acm.org wrote:
> 
> > Right to reverse-engineer is guaranteed by law in the US
> > (Nintento vs Galoob).  What the licenses say means
> > nothing.  US Congress is working
> > to change that, but maybe they can be stopped.
> 
> Corey, you are not a lawyer, so you should be very careful
> about making misleading statements like this. The case,
> which by the way is misspelled here, it is Nintendo vs
> Galoob, does not have anything like the general sweeping
> interpretation that you suggest.

I apologize for speaking out of line.  You are correct, I am not a
lawyer and should be more careful about what I say.

My knowledge (reading articles and the like) is old in this area.  

> 
> You need to study case law in much more detail, and I am
> afraid you will find it is more depressing than you think
> with respect to reverse engineering. Look for example at
> Microsoft vs Stacker, and many other cases (if you go into
> one of the standard legal search engines, and look for
> reverse engineering, you will pull up quite a few cases).

You are correct.  The reason you are reverse engineering matters, I
believe.  And the method, too.  Care should be taken.  And it is
depressing.

> 
> You also need to study the recent legislation passed by
> congress, which also affects the situation here.

This is true, and is also depressing.


Thank you for your response.

-- 
Corey Minyard                   Internet:  minyard@acm.org
  Work: minyard@nortelnetworks.com  UUCP:  minyard@wf-rch.cirr.com




  reply	other threads:[~1999-02-09  0:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-01-31  0:00 Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-01-31  0:00 ` Simon Wright
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-08  0:00   ` Michael F Brenner
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Alexy V Khrabrov
1999-02-01  0:00     ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-01  0:00       ` Jeff Carter
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Pointer Arithmetic (was: Wanted: Ada STL....) adam
1999-02-02  0:00       ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00         ` adam
1999-02-03  0:00           ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00             ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
1999-02-03  0:00           ` William Clodius
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-03  0:00         ` robert_dewar
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Robert A Duff
1999-02-03  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-02  0:00     ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future Brian Rogoff
1999-02-02  0:00       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-03  0:00       ` John English
1999-02-03  0:00         ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-03  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Stephen Leake
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Hyman Rosen
1999-02-05  0:00               ` John English
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-06  0:00                   ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` Richard D Riehle
1999-02-05  0:00           ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-04  0:00         ` Ehud Lamm
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-05  0:00             ` Matthew Heaney
1999-02-05  0:00               ` Brian Rogoff
1999-02-08  0:00                 ` John English
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Al Christians
1999-02-04  0:00           ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00             ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-04  0:00               ` Pat Rogers
1999-02-04  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` Tom Moran
1999-02-05  0:00                           ` dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                             ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                               ` dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` robert_dewar
1999-02-08  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                         ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-07  0:00                               ` Simon Wright
1999-02-08  0:00                               ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-08  0:00                                 ` Open Source Licensing (was: Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future) dennison
1999-02-08  0:00                                   ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` dennison
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard
1999-02-09  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                       ` Corey Minyard [this message]
1999-02-09  0:00                                 ` Wanted: Ada STL. Reward: Ada's Future robert_dewar
1999-02-09  0:00                                   ` dennison
1999-02-10  0:00                                     ` robert_dewar
1999-02-07  0:00                           ` Simon Wright
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                     ` <36ba730b.35540068@ <79fmg1$fn0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00               ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                 ` Larry Kilgallen
1999-02-05  0:00                   ` robert_dewar
     [not found]                     ` <79f24e$t14 <36BB4162.52FC6D9F@averstar.com>
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` Tucker Taft
1999-02-05  0:00                     ` dennison
1999-02-05  0:00                       ` robert_dewar
1999-02-05  0:00                         ` dennison
1999-02-06  0:00                       ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-05  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-09  0:00             ` micro_ada
1999-02-05  0:00         ` Nick Roberts
1999-02-08  0:00           ` John English
1999-02-01  0:00 ` dennison
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
1999-02-01  0:00   ` Marin David Condic
1999-02-01  0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
1999-02-05  0:00 ` Corey Minyard
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