From: Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk>
Subject: Revocable or non-revocable licenses from AdaCore? (Re: AdaCore ... the Next SCO?)
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 13:35:44 +0200
Date: 2006-07-18T13:35:44+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ac77du27.fsf_-_@hugin.crs4.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1153220326.967685.309610@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com
Ludovic Brenta wrote:
> - because license terms can change with the weather, or be different
> for each licensee. They can even change after a licensee has had a
> license for some time.
>
> This is true of all software, free or proprietary, cost or no cost.
Not quite. GPL, LGPL and GMGPL are all explicitly non-revocable.
AdaCore _cannot_ change a license after it has been given, if it is
one of these three - no matter what they claim.
> So basically, the user needs assurance about two things: who the
> copyright holder really is, and what license terms are applicable at
> any given point in time and for this particular licensee.
If a file for a long time has been available for download from the
copyright holder's own web site with a clear and consistent license
notice, then I doubt very much that there is any doubt about which
license you have it under if you have downloaded it during that
period.
> To give proper assurance on both accounts, I think that the
> copyright holder should crypto-sign his software, and grant a
> perpetual, non-revokable, immutable license to
> everyone. Unfortunately, the GPL (GNAT-modified or not) is revokable
> and mutable (think "or any later version"), so it is possible that
> it not apply to all licensees.
GPL is _not_ revokable. The "or any later version" clause is purely
an option for the licensee, not something the copyright holder can
use.
Greetings,
Jacob
--
�Saving keystrokes is the job of the text editor, not the
programming language.� -- Preben Randhol
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Thread overview: 170+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-27 10:58 Ada in Debian: most libraries will switch to the pure GPL in Etch Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-27 11:48 ` AdaCore ... the Next SCO? Jeffrey Creem
2006-06-27 13:13 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-27 15:16 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 20:14 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-28 20:26 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-27 16:38 ` Martin Krischik
2006-06-27 17:58 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 0:24 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 6:09 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-28 7:45 ` Martin Krischik
2006-06-28 13:07 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-29 17:07 ` Martin Krischik
2006-06-29 22:26 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-30 16:46 ` Martin Krischik
2006-07-01 8:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-02 12:10 ` Martin Krischik
2006-06-28 20:26 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-29 17:45 ` Stephen Leake
2006-06-30 8:55 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 7:28 ` Martin Krischik
2006-06-28 8:07 ` No relicense everything now! (was: Re: AdaCore ... the Next SCO?) Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 13:14 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-29 17:53 ` AdaCore ... the Next SCO? Stephen Leake
2006-06-29 20:31 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-06-30 8:40 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-30 15:19 ` Stephen Leake
2006-06-29 22:06 ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-06-30 8:46 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-30 15:21 ` Stephen Leake
2006-06-28 0:18 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 20:12 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-28 22:45 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 21:54 ` Björn Persson
2006-06-28 22:57 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 6:06 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-28 7:49 ` Martin Krischik
2006-06-29 17:43 ` Stephen Leake
2006-06-27 23:10 ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-06-28 2:23 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-29 17:40 ` Stephen Leake
2006-06-27 15:00 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 18:49 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 0:06 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-03 22:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-07-03 23:58 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-04 10:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-04 22:13 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-04 18:55 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-07-04 20:29 ` Simon Wright
2006-07-04 22:34 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-04 22:20 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-14 13:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-07-14 15:14 ` michael bode
2006-07-14 19:58 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-17 20:13 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-07-17 21:24 ` Michael Bode
2006-07-17 22:23 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-07-18 0:38 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-18 7:40 ` michael bode
2006-07-18 10:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-18 11:55 ` michael bode
2006-07-18 19:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-18 19:55 ` Michael Bode
2006-07-18 10:58 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-07-18 11:35 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen [this message]
2006-07-18 20:37 ` Revocable or non-revocable licenses from AdaCore? (Re: AdaCore ... the Next SCO?) Samuel Tardieu
2006-07-18 12:55 ` AdaCore ... the Next SCO? michael bode
2006-07-18 13:26 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-18 19:11 ` Michael Bode
2006-07-18 20:33 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-07-20 21:55 ` Björn Persson
2006-07-18 14:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-06-28 14:27 ` Preben Randhol
2006-06-28 15:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 15:36 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 20:18 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-29 7:09 ` Preben Randhol
2006-06-29 20:01 ` Björn Persson
2006-06-30 8:52 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-03 22:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2006-07-03 23:55 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-04 18:07 ` Michael Bode
2006-07-04 22:18 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-18 10:18 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2006-06-28 5:58 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-28 13:04 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-29 22:46 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-30 7:01 ` Martin Dowie
2006-07-01 8:48 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-30 8:39 ` M E Leypold
2006-07-01 8:58 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-27 13:46 ` Ada in Debian: most libraries will switch to the pure GPL in Etch Alex R. Mosteo
2006-06-27 14:40 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 14:52 ` What luck we had M E Leypold
2006-06-27 19:13 ` Pascal Obry
2006-06-28 13:39 ` Preben Randhol
2006-06-28 19:20 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-27 20:40 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-06-28 0:02 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 18:57 ` Ada in Debian: most libraries will switch to the pure GPL in Etch Ed Falis
2006-06-28 0:58 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 19:45 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-27 21:10 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-28 1:02 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 15:00 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2006-06-27 15:28 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-27 15:38 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 16:40 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2006-06-27 17:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-06-27 21:18 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-28 0:45 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 0:48 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 10:51 ` Dr. Adrian Wrigley
2006-06-28 11:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 11:21 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 12:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-28 13:36 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 13:31 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 0:42 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 19:24 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-28 23:00 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 18:50 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-28 0:50 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 19:25 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-28 0:52 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 19:39 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-27 20:47 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-28 0:53 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 18:57 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-28 13:50 ` Preben Randhol
2006-06-28 14:16 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 19:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 19:55 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-28 19:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-29 6:12 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2006-06-28 19:22 ` Simon Wright
2006-06-27 18:39 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-27 19:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-27 19:39 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-27 20:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-27 20:23 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-27 20:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-27 22:53 ` Björn Persson
2006-06-28 5:11 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 1:29 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 1:18 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 6:07 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-28 17:58 ` Frank J. Lhota
2006-06-28 18:17 ` Ed Falis
2006-06-28 18:55 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-30 19:55 ` Preben Randhol
2006-06-28 18:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-06-28 19:28 ` Frank J. Lhota
2006-06-28 19:38 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-28 19:17 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-28 20:48 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-28 1:07 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 21:07 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-27 21:19 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-28 1:40 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 1:35 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-28 11:57 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-28 18:45 ` Michael Bode
2006-06-28 19:51 ` Ludovic Brenta
2006-06-28 20:46 ` Florian Weimer
2006-06-28 23:06 ` M E Leypold
2006-06-27 22:44 ` Simon Wright
2006-07-03 18:21 ` Matthew Goulet
2006-07-04 7:21 ` Ludovic Brenta
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