From: Jacob Sparre Andersen <sparre@nbi.dk>
Subject: Re: Data table text I/O package?
Date: 21 Jun 2005 14:35:19 +0200
Date: 2005-06-21T14:35:19+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m264w7ga60.fsf@hugin.crs4.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 42b7f58e$0$1134$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net
Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote:
> > Unlike Ada, XML is _not_ human-readable.
>
> First, this has been claimed many times without even an indication
> of why this might be so. Again, compare
>
> <Date year = "2006" month = "December" day = "24"/>
>
> and
>
> Date'(year => 2006, month => -"December", day => 24);
>
> Could it be that you just don't like reading angle brackets?
I definitely don't like reading _any_ brackets, when I'm looking at
data.
> Do the <...> smell like C++'s template parameter brackets?
They may. But neither of the above two notations are sensible, when I
am playing with 30 � 55k matrices.
> Again, habits? I won't say that XML *looks* nice, but it's purpose
> is not to look nice, this is not a Miss Dataformat Competition where
> you cannot win without rounded curves o.K. by the lates fashion.
> XML is supposed to support identifing data in text form.
Yes. But for tabular data XML has much too much overhead and is thus
too difficult to read.
> > And if I want an error-correcting file format which isn't
> > human-readable, there are plenty to choose from, which are faster than
> > XML.
>
> Such as...?
> ASN.1 perhaps?
I am not sure if ASN.1 includes error-correction, but it was one of
the options I had on my mind, when I wrote the sentence. A much more
effective format would be based on an instantiation of Ada.Direct_IO
with some kind of checksum included in Element_Type. My astrophysics
colleagues also have a nice format for multidimensional tables, but I
can't remember the name at the moment.
Jacob
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2005-06-15 9:57 Data table text I/O package? Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-15 11:43 ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 13:35 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-15 14:12 ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 15:02 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-15 16:17 ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 16:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-15 17:30 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-15 18:41 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-15 19:09 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-15 18:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-06-16 9:55 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-16 10:53 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-16 12:24 ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-16 14:01 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-16 12:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-16 14:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-16 14:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-20 11:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-20 11:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-20 18:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-20 18:45 ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-20 18:54 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-21 9:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-21 9:52 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-21 11:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-21 12:35 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen [this message]
2005-06-21 10:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-21 11:41 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-21 12:44 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-21 21:01 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-22 12:15 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-22 22:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-23 9:03 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-23 9:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-23 10:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-23 11:37 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-23 12:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-23 14:16 ` Marc A. Criley
2005-06-25 16:38 ` Simon Wright
2005-06-16 13:26 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-16 18:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-30 3:02 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-06-30 18:43 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-07-01 1:22 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-01 3:01 ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-07-01 5:59 ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-02 1:54 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-02 10:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-06 22:04 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-06-30 19:24 ` Björn Persson
2005-07-01 0:54 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-01 21:36 ` TSV and CSV Björn Persson
2005-07-01 22:08 ` Martin Dowie
2005-07-02 0:05 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-02 1:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-02 1:20 ` Ed
2005-07-03 9:08 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-02 0:07 ` Data table text I/O package? Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-02 1:21 ` Randy Brukardt
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2005-06-15 15:40 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-15 19:18 ` Oliver Kellogg
2005-06-17 9:02 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
[not found] ` <7adf1648bb99ca2bb4055ed8e6e381f4@netcabo.pt>
2005-06-15 15:46 ` Preben Randhol
[not found] ` <20050615154640.GA1921@pvv.org>
2005-06-15 16:14 ` Marius Amado Alves
[not found] ` <f04ccd7efd67fe197cc14cda89340779@netcabo.pt>
2005-06-15 16:20 ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 19:30 ` Simon Wright
2005-06-15 22:40 ` Lionel Draghi
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