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From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: Data table text I/O package?
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 16:01:57 +0200
Date: 2005-06-16T13:59:35+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42b169a6$0$27776$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.50.1118919277.17633.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org>

Marius Amado Alves wrote:

> For tables of atomic data tab separated is better.

Note the crucial bits in this general statement.

1) You had really better have *atomic* data.

2) You had better have the format as your own format and
 no data exchange with any system requiring "just
 your table files, please".

Tab separated atomic data can be "semi-structured"
too. Consider 04/06/05 and tell me wich calender date that
is, in [choose country here].

It makes litte sense to say XML = semi, TAB = atomic without
specifying what exactly you mean by semi-structure data.
Consider

 <Date y="2005" m="June" d="04"/>

If a program maintains a table of calender dates
for internal use, then 2005-06-04, or 2005 TAB 06 TAB 04
save space and is easy to use. But it also restricts
the table to an internal data format.

Choice of TabSV depends on the requirements, doesn't it?
In particular on how many different programs will use the
data, who is going to "read" them in which ways, special
purpose or not, are there industry standards, etc..

I wonder whether Ada programmers will like a data format like
 
 Date'(y => 2005, m => -"June", d => 04)

and still keep saying that it must have scientifically proven
readability advantages, and that XML is verbose. And before
you answer, think of the word "habit".


Georg 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-06-16 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-15  9:57 Data table text I/O package? Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-15 11:43 ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 13:35   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-15 14:12     ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 15:02       ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-15 16:17         ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 16:58           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-15 17:30             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-15 18:41               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-15 19:09                 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-15 18:58         ` Randy Brukardt
2005-06-16  9:55           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-16 10:53             ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-16 12:24               ` Robert A Duff
2005-06-16 14:01               ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2005-06-16 12:27                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-16 14:46                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-16 14:51                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-20 11:19                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-20 11:39                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-20 18:25                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-20 18:45                             ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-20 18:54                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-21  9:24                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-21  9:52                                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-21 11:10                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-21 12:35                                     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-06-21 10:42                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-21 11:41                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-21 12:44                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-21 21:01                                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-22 12:15                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-22 22:24                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-23  9:03                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-23  9:47                                               ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-23 10:34                                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-23 11:37                                                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-23 12:59                                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-06-23 14:16                                               ` Marc A. Criley
2005-06-25 16:38                               ` Simon Wright
2005-06-16 13:26                 ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-16 18:10                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-06-30  3:02             ` Randy Brukardt
2005-06-30 18:43               ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2005-07-01  1:22                 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-01  3:01                   ` Alexander E. Kopilovich
2005-07-01  5:59                     ` Jeffrey Carter
2005-07-02  1:54                     ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-02 10:24                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-07-06 22:04                         ` Randy Brukardt
2005-06-30 19:24               ` Björn Persson
2005-07-01  0:54                 ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-01 21:36                   ` TSV and CSV Björn Persson
2005-07-01 22:08                     ` Martin Dowie
2005-07-02  0:05                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-02  1:10                         ` Randy Brukardt
2005-07-02  1:20                           ` Ed
2005-07-03  9:08                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-02  0:07                   ` Data table text I/O package? Georg Bauhaus
2005-07-02  1:21                     ` Randy Brukardt
     [not found]     ` <20050615141236.GA90053@pvv.org>
2005-06-15 15:40       ` Marius Amado Alves
2005-06-15 19:18         ` Oliver Kellogg
2005-06-17  9:02           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
     [not found]       ` <7adf1648bb99ca2bb4055ed8e6e381f4@netcabo.pt>
2005-06-15 15:46         ` Preben Randhol
     [not found]         ` <20050615154640.GA1921@pvv.org>
2005-06-15 16:14           ` Marius Amado Alves
     [not found]           ` <f04ccd7efd67fe197cc14cda89340779@netcabo.pt>
2005-06-15 16:20             ` Preben Randhol
2005-06-15 19:30 ` Simon Wright
2005-06-15 22:40 ` Lionel Draghi
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