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From: Markus E L <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: Current status of Ada?
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:13:13 +0200
Date: 2007-08-23T10:13:13+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lzd4xe8y92.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1187850312.375316.57440@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com


Harald Korneliussen wrote:

> On Aug 22, 2:53 am, "Jeffrey R. Carter"
> <spam.jrcarter....@acm.nospam.org> wrote:
>
>> And some projects using Ada commercially consider it a competitive
>> advantage and keep it secret.
>
> Are you sure? It seems to me it's in the companies' best interests to
> say whether they are using Ada, since Ada developers are tricky to get
> hold of. Keeping it secret seems to me both difficult (what do you
> write in the job ads?) and counterproductive.

Depends what you're offering. If you're offering a program component
it might be in your best interest to offer it in a language the
customer uses or might want to use (and if your customer works in
defense or aerospace that might well be Ada). If you're offering a
complete application it depends on the customer: I've ben bidding for
projects where the customer then went for getting the thing done in C#
(by someone else). I've actually had other projects where the customer
didn't care too much (because he'd have to buy maintainance from a
third party anyway). I suggest that in the latter case it's often more
useful to focus on the properties / features of the system to be
developed, not on the implementation technique or the language: That
would only serve to confuse the customer (looking up Ada in "the
internet" could even give them the impression that they are getting
sold a dead end technology and now amount of "arguing" will server to
clean up this impression: You won't get the opportunity to argue very
much at all). I wouldn't keep the use of Ada secret in this cases, but
neither would I try to dilute my sales pitch by introducing the
irrelevant question of which technology will be actually used: The
important bottom lines are features (including stability, freeness
from software defects and this like).

It rather depends on the given situation wether commitment to a
certain language or development method is a competitive advantage.

Just my "two cent".

Regards -- Markus




  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-23  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-21 19:56 Current status of Ada? Steve Marotta
2007-08-21 22:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-08-21 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-08-22  0:15   ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-08-22  0:53     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-08-23  6:25       ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-08-23  8:13         ` Markus E L [this message]
2007-08-23  9:53         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-23 10:26           ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-08-24  4:31         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-08-26 17:51         ` adaworks
2007-08-26 18:46           ` Ed Falis
2007-08-26 20:55           ` Gary Scott
2007-08-28  6:26             ` adaworks
2007-08-28 18:09               ` tmoran
2007-08-29  5:31                 ` adaworks
2007-08-29 11:09                   ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-29 14:27                   ` Ed Falis
2007-08-29 15:43                     ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-08-29 20:37                       ` Ed Falis
2007-08-29 21:49                         ` Gautier
2007-08-31 14:25                         ` adaworks
2007-08-31 17:18                           ` Adam Beneschan
2007-08-31 19:46                             ` Ed Falis
2007-09-01  1:51                             ` Markus E L
2007-09-01 17:02                               ` Gary Scott
2007-09-02 19:04                                 ` adaworks
2007-09-02 20:03                                   ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 11:06                                     ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-09-03 12:35                                       ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-03 16:38                                         ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 16:36                                       ` Gary Scott
2007-09-02 20:05                                   ` Ed Falis
2007-09-02 21:29                                     ` roderick.chapman
2007-09-03  1:18                                       ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03  6:14                                 ` anon
2007-09-03  7:10                                   ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-03 16:18                                     ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 16:44                                       ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-03 18:39                                         ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 19:27                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-03 16:12                                   ` Gary Scott
2007-09-04  7:07                             ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2007-08-31 19:45                           ` Ed Falis
2007-08-28  7:58           ` roderick.chapman
2007-08-28 11:46             ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-08-28 11:57               ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-09-12 14:50               ` Gerd
2007-08-29  5:23             ` adaworks
2007-08-29 21:44           ` Gautier
2007-09-17  6:35           ` lou
2007-09-17  9:15             ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-17  9:27               ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-17 15:42             ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-17 17:58               ` Tomek Wa kuski
2007-09-17 19:53                 ` Wiktor Moskwa
2007-09-18  7:55                   ` Tomek Wa kuski
2007-09-18  8:26                   ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-18 16:56                     ` Wiktor Moskwa
2007-09-17 20:43                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18  4:51             ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-18 16:16             ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-22  8:44     ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-08-22 12:15       ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-08-22 13:39         ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-08-22 15:33       ` Steve Marotta
2007-08-22 16:36         ` Markus E L
2007-08-29  5:42 ` anon
2007-08-29  7:22   ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-08-29  9:23     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-08-29 11:26   ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-29 12:14     ` Markus E L
2007-08-30  6:40     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2007-08-31  0:48       ` Gary Scott
2007-08-30  8:01     ` anon
2007-08-30  9:41       ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-30 10:23         ` Markus E L
2007-08-31  9:58           ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-31 13:27             ` Markus E L
2007-08-31  9:54         ` anon
2007-08-31 11:54           ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-31 13:31             ` Markus E L
2007-08-31 22:32             ` anon
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