From: Markus E L <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: Current status of Ada?
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 10:13:13 +0200
Date: 2007-08-23T10:13:13+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <lzd4xe8y92.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1187850312.375316.57440@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com
Harald Korneliussen wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2:53 am, "Jeffrey R. Carter"
> <spam.jrcarter....@acm.nospam.org> wrote:
>
>> And some projects using Ada commercially consider it a competitive
>> advantage and keep it secret.
>
> Are you sure? It seems to me it's in the companies' best interests to
> say whether they are using Ada, since Ada developers are tricky to get
> hold of. Keeping it secret seems to me both difficult (what do you
> write in the job ads?) and counterproductive.
Depends what you're offering. If you're offering a program component
it might be in your best interest to offer it in a language the
customer uses or might want to use (and if your customer works in
defense or aerospace that might well be Ada). If you're offering a
complete application it depends on the customer: I've ben bidding for
projects where the customer then went for getting the thing done in C#
(by someone else). I've actually had other projects where the customer
didn't care too much (because he'd have to buy maintainance from a
third party anyway). I suggest that in the latter case it's often more
useful to focus on the properties / features of the system to be
developed, not on the implementation technique or the language: That
would only serve to confuse the customer (looking up Ada in "the
internet" could even give them the impression that they are getting
sold a dead end technology and now amount of "arguing" will server to
clean up this impression: You won't get the opportunity to argue very
much at all). I wouldn't keep the use of Ada secret in this cases, but
neither would I try to dilute my sales pitch by introducing the
irrelevant question of which technology will be actually used: The
important bottom lines are features (including stability, freeness
from software defects and this like).
It rather depends on the given situation wether commitment to a
certain language or development method is a competitive advantage.
Just my "two cent".
Regards -- Markus
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2007-08-21 19:56 Current status of Ada? Steve Marotta
2007-08-21 22:03 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-08-21 22:29 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-08-22 0:15 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-08-22 0:53 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-08-23 6:25 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-08-23 8:13 ` Markus E L [this message]
2007-08-23 9:53 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-23 10:26 ` Harald Korneliussen
2007-08-24 4:31 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-08-26 17:51 ` adaworks
2007-08-26 18:46 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-26 20:55 ` Gary Scott
2007-08-28 6:26 ` adaworks
2007-08-28 18:09 ` tmoran
2007-08-29 5:31 ` adaworks
2007-08-29 11:09 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-29 14:27 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-29 15:43 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2007-08-29 20:37 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-29 21:49 ` Gautier
2007-08-31 14:25 ` adaworks
2007-08-31 17:18 ` Adam Beneschan
2007-08-31 19:46 ` Ed Falis
2007-09-01 1:51 ` Markus E L
2007-09-01 17:02 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-02 19:04 ` adaworks
2007-09-02 20:03 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 11:06 ` Peter C. Chapin
2007-09-03 12:35 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-03 16:38 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 16:36 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-02 20:05 ` Ed Falis
2007-09-02 21:29 ` roderick.chapman
2007-09-03 1:18 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 6:14 ` anon
2007-09-03 7:10 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-03 16:18 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 16:44 ` Pascal Obry
2007-09-03 18:39 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-03 19:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-09-03 16:12 ` Gary Scott
2007-09-04 7:07 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2007-08-31 19:45 ` Ed Falis
2007-08-28 7:58 ` roderick.chapman
2007-08-28 11:46 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-08-28 11:57 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-09-12 14:50 ` Gerd
2007-08-29 5:23 ` adaworks
2007-08-29 21:44 ` Gautier
2007-09-17 6:35 ` lou
2007-09-17 9:15 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-17 9:27 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-17 15:42 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-09-17 17:58 ` Tomek Wa kuski
2007-09-17 19:53 ` Wiktor Moskwa
2007-09-18 7:55 ` Tomek Wa kuski
2007-09-18 8:26 ` Adrian Hoe
2007-09-18 16:56 ` Wiktor Moskwa
2007-09-17 20:43 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-09-18 4:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-09-18 16:16 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-22 8:44 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-08-22 12:15 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-08-22 13:39 ` Larry Kilgallen
2007-08-22 15:33 ` Steve Marotta
2007-08-22 16:36 ` Markus E L
2007-08-29 5:42 ` anon
2007-08-29 7:22 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-08-29 9:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-08-29 11:26 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-29 12:14 ` Markus E L
2007-08-30 6:40 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2007-08-31 0:48 ` Gary Scott
2007-08-30 8:01 ` anon
2007-08-30 9:41 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-30 10:23 ` Markus E L
2007-08-31 9:58 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-31 13:27 ` Markus E L
2007-08-31 9:54 ` anon
2007-08-31 11:54 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2007-08-31 13:31 ` Markus E L
2007-08-31 22:32 ` anon
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