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From: Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: An Ada Advice Inquiry
Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 22:51:39 +0200
Date: 2007-05-04T22:51:39+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lz8xc4e2hw.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: f1g4lf$pg4$1@online.de


Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> writes:

> "Ed Falis" <falis@verizon.net> writes:
>
>> So make your own licensing less restrictive and you won't have that
>> problem, will you?
>
> There are two answers to this question: 

Oh no! Now all of "them" -- the "GPL is more free than BSD", "Think
about the users", "If you don't want GPL, just cough up some K$ and
buy a commercial ...", "If you can't afford it, you're are not to be
taken serious", "how can you expect vendor X to give you HIS TOOLS for
free, if you don't want to give your work for free", "you have another
problem altogether, you should ..." -- will be coming out of the
woodwork again. I'm completely on your side here (and I even would
like to bash certain compiler vendors).

>
> a) this is not my decision. I actually like the GPL. But since this is
> c.l.a and not soc.free.software I'd say that LGPL would work better to
> support the use of Ada.

> b) what if I would make my licensing as unrestrictive as the BSD
> license?

Less free, you know ;-).

> I really don't want to bash certain compiler vendors. Everyone can do
> what he likes: the compiler vendor can choose the licensing as he
> likes, the compiler user can buy the licensing scheme he likes and

And everyone of them has to live with the consequences :-). Some of
them, though, want to have their cake and eat it, like being so
understanding about certain vendors, but at the same time mourn for
the lost future of Ada. 

> there's always the possibility to use another language like C[++|#],
> Java, what else. 

> Since there are threads like this on a regular basis (the last one was
> "What's wrong with Ada?" I wonder if there might be a correlation
> between the popularity of a language and the tools + licenses it
> has. 

Certainly. :-)).

> I note that the answer to my initial question ("Wanted:...") was not
> the name or website of a tools vendor but to change my
> requirements. 

And that is telling. 

> If I would s/Ada/Java/ or s/Ada/C/ in that question, I
> bet I'd get a few URLs as a reply.

...

Regards -- Markus




  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-04 20:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-04  3:01 An Ada Advice Inquiry adaworks
2007-05-04  2:23 ` ezkcdude
2007-05-04  4:15 ` tmoran
2007-05-04  5:47   ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-04  8:47     ` roderick.chapman
2007-05-04 12:17       ` adaworks
2007-05-05  2:35         ` Fionn Mac Cumhaill
2007-05-06 10:50           ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-04 14:14       ` Sloan.Kohler
2007-05-04 12:16     ` adaworks
2007-05-04  4:57 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-05-04  8:04 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-04  8:40   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-04  9:08 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-04 10:05   ` AW: " Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)
2007-05-04 11:41     ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-04 12:21     ` adaworks
2007-05-04 11:53       ` AW: " Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)
2007-05-04 12:18   ` adaworks
2007-05-04  9:22 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05  5:55   ` adaworks
2007-05-06 16:21     ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-04  9:52 ` xavier
2007-05-04 12:19   ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-04 12:19   ` adaworks
2007-05-04 13:59 ` Stephen Leake
2007-05-04 16:31   ` adaworks
2007-05-04 18:30     ` Pascal Obry
2007-05-04 19:10       ` Michael Bode
2007-05-04 19:22         ` Ed Falis
2007-05-04 20:22           ` Michael Bode
2007-05-04 20:51             ` Markus E Leypold [this message]
2007-05-04 21:57             ` Ed Falis
2007-05-04 22:24               ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05  9:59               ` Michael Bode
2007-05-05 11:37                 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 11:51                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-05 12:13                   ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 12:30                   ` Michael Bode
2007-05-07  9:40                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-07 18:17                       ` Michael Bode
2007-05-07 19:39                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-04 20:03         ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-05-04 20:36           ` Michael Bode
2007-05-04 20:55           ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 12:41             ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-05-05 13:24               ` Ed Falis
2007-05-05 13:31                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-05 13:40                   ` Michael Bode
2007-05-05 13:59                     ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-05 14:39                       ` Michael Bode
2007-05-05 14:04                   ` Ed Falis
2007-05-05 14:17                     ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 14:13                 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 14:16                   ` Ed Falis
2007-05-05 14:07               ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-04 21:16         ` adaworks
2007-05-05 23:47         ` Stephen Leake
2007-05-06 10:19           ` Michael Bode
2007-05-06 13:31           ` GNAT Professional machine code listings (was: An Ada Advice Inquiry) Larry Kilgallen
2007-05-06 14:50             ` GNAT Professional machine code listings Simon Wright
2007-05-06 15:26             ` GNAT Professional machine code listings (was: An Ada Advice Inquiry) adaworks
2007-05-04 19:59     ` An Ada Advice Inquiry Jeffrey Creem
2007-05-04 21:37       ` adaworks
2007-05-05 12:27       ` John McCormick
2007-05-05 12:45         ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-05 23:44     ` Stephen Leake
2007-05-06  5:00       ` adaworks
2007-05-06 10:47         ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-06 12:18           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-06 13:49             ` Pascal Obry
2007-05-06 15:47           ` adaworks
2007-05-06 15:20             ` Pascal Obry
2007-05-06 18:12               ` adaworks
2007-05-06 19:38             ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-07  7:07               ` Martin Krischik
2007-05-07  8:50                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-07  9:40                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-07 13:00                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-07 13:58                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-07 21:07                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-08  7:27                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-07 16:12                       ` Martin Krischik
2007-05-07 18:38                         ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-07 21:26                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-08  2:42                           ` Justin Gombos
2007-05-08  8:15                             ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-09  0:19                               ` Justin Gombos
2007-05-09  2:05                                 ` Robert A Duff
2007-05-08 10:50                             ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-08 15:53                             ` Robert A Duff
2007-05-08 18:03                               ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-09  2:23                                 ` Robert A Duff
2007-05-08  6:36                           ` Martin Krischik
2007-05-08  8:32                             ` Maciej Sobczak
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