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From: Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
Subject: Re: Ada array vs C pointer (call by reference)
Date: 28 Jun 2008 14:22:09 -0700
Date: 2008-06-28T14:22:09-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lz8wwp6yri.fsf@stalkings.ghoti.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: uabh5k655.fsf@nasa.gov

Stephen Leake <Stephe.Leake@nasa.gov> writes:
> Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com> writes:
> > On Jun 27, 3:14 pm, Keith Thompson <ks...@mib.org> wrote:
> >> Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homep...@gmail.com> writes:
> >> > On 27 Cze, 18:11, Keith Thompson <ks...@mib.org> wrote:
> >> > > > Ada *cannot* guarantee that Interfaces.C.C_Float is the
> >> > > > *right* float, because it does not verify how the C code
> >> > > > was compiled and there is a lot of freedom given to C
> >> > > > implementers in this area.  Same for all other types.
> >>
> >> > > No, Ada can't guarantee it directly.  Instead, Ada requires the
> >> > > implementation to guarantee it.
> >>
> >> > And how the implementation can guarantee it without mandating the
> >> > representation on the C compiler?
> >>
> >> It doesn't *mandate* the representation used by the C compiler; the
> >> author of the Interfaces.C implementation has to *know* the
> >> representation used by the C compiler.
> >
> > Which is, of course, impossible without a crystal ball.  
> 
> No, the vendor must provide both the Ada compiler and the C compiler.
> Are there any vendors out there that don't?

No, the vendor certainly doesn't have to provide both the Ada compiler
and the C compiler.  The author of the Ada compiler simply has to know
how the C compiler represents the various types, in order to get
Interfaces.C right.  In most cases, the C type representations are
mandated, or at least strongly suggested, by the underlying system.

(GNAT/gcc is the only case I know of where an Ada compiler and a C
compiler come from the same source.)

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"



  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-28 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-27  1:39 Ada array vs C pointer (call by reference) Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27  1:42 ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27  2:55 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-27 13:02   ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27 13:15     ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27 14:43     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-27 14:47       ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-27 20:35       ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27 22:00         ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-27 22:46           ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-27 16:11     ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-27 17:00       ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-27 18:15         ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-28 14:02         ` Stephen Leake
2008-06-28 21:18           ` Keith Thompson
2008-07-03 12:44         ` Rob Norris
2008-06-27 20:44       ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27 22:14         ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-27 22:36           ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-28 14:04             ` Stephen Leake
2008-06-28 21:22               ` Keith Thompson [this message]
2008-06-30 17:13               ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-28 17:52             ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-30 17:13               ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-30 18:55                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-01 21:19                 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-07-01 21:19                 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-06-28  0:56         ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-06-28 14:11           ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-28 17:49             ` tmoran
2008-06-28 21:46             ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-28 17:44         ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-01 21:10       ` Randy Brukardt
2008-06-27 18:13     ` tmoran
2008-06-27 20:49       ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27  4:10 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-27  8:22   ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27 15:07     ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-27 22:54     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-28  1:15       ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-28  2:17         ` Adam Beneschan
2008-07-01 21:31           ` Randy Brukardt
2008-07-01 21:31           ` Randy Brukardt
2008-08-22  4:06           ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-28  4:59         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-29  3:48         ` anon
2008-06-28  1:21 ` anon
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