From: Adam Beneschan <adam@irvine.com>
Subject: Re: Ada array vs C pointer (call by reference)
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:36:32 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2008-06-27T15:36:32-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44b654da-5a19-4230-a5f2-94e35f2b3aeb@d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: lzwska8r0k.fsf@stalkings.ghoti.net
On Jun 27, 3:14 pm, Keith Thompson <ks...@mib.org> wrote:
> Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homep...@gmail.com> writes:
> > On 27 Cze, 18:11, Keith Thompson <ks...@mib.org> wrote:
> > > > Ada *cannot* guarantee that Interfaces.C.C_Float is the *right* float,
> > > > because it does not verify how the C code was compiled and there is a
> > > > lot of freedom given to C implementers in this area.
> > > > Same for all other types.
>
> > > No, Ada can't guarantee it directly. Instead, Ada requires the
> > > implementation to guarantee it.
>
> > And how the implementation can guarantee it without mandating the
> > representation on the C compiler?
>
> It doesn't *mandate* the representation used by the C compiler; the
> author of the Interfaces.C implementation has to *know* the
> representation used by the C compiler.
Which is, of course, impossible without a crystal ball. Anyway, I
don't see anything in the RM that makes any such requirement. The
language involved uses a lot of "corresponds to" phrasing, which I
think is deliberately fuzzy enough to avoid *requiring* an Ada
implementation to do something that cannot realistically be done in a
guaranteed manner. I think the idea is that the implementor is just
expected to define the types in a way that is probably going to make
things work right. That's about as strong a statement as one can
make. But, of course, it's still different from the standard Ada
types like Integer and Float; there are no such expectations put on
Ada implementations that the type representations correspond at all to
C types.
-- Adam
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-27 1:39 Ada array vs C pointer (call by reference) Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27 1:42 ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27 2:55 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-27 13:02 ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27 13:15 ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27 14:43 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-27 14:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-27 20:35 ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27 22:00 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-27 22:46 ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-27 16:11 ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-27 17:00 ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-27 18:15 ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-28 14:02 ` Stephen Leake
2008-06-28 21:18 ` Keith Thompson
2008-07-03 12:44 ` Rob Norris
2008-06-27 20:44 ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27 22:14 ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-27 22:36 ` Adam Beneschan [this message]
2008-06-28 14:04 ` Stephen Leake
2008-06-28 21:22 ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-30 17:13 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-28 17:52 ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-30 17:13 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-30 18:55 ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-01 21:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-07-01 21:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-06-28 0:56 ` Peter C. Chapin
2008-06-28 14:11 ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-28 17:49 ` tmoran
2008-06-28 21:46 ` Keith Thompson
2008-06-28 17:44 ` Robert A Duff
2008-07-01 21:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-06-27 18:13 ` tmoran
2008-06-27 20:49 ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-27 4:10 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-27 8:22 ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-27 15:07 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-06-27 22:54 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-28 1:15 ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-28 2:17 ` Adam Beneschan
2008-07-01 21:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-07-01 21:31 ` Randy Brukardt
2008-08-22 4:06 ` Adrian Hoe
2008-06-28 4:59 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2008-06-29 3:48 ` anon
2008-06-28 1:21 ` anon
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