From: "Pat Rogers" <progers@NOclasswideSPAM.com>
Subject: Re: Desirability of C++
Date: 2000/05/01
Date: 2000-05-01T00:00:00+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <lykP4.4078$ln5.88486@news.swbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8ekfoo$8q61@news.cis.okstate.edu
"David Starner" <dvdeug@x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu> wrote in message
news:8ekfoo$8q61@news.cis.okstate.edu...
> On Mon, 1 May 2000 10:56:14 -0500, Pat Rogers
<progers@NOclasswideSPAM.com> wrote:
> >"E. Robert Tisdale" <edwin@netwood.net> wrote in message
> >news:390D97DC.241E7CCD@netwood.net...
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >> Does it matter? The fact is that
> >> more programmers are learning and using C++ than Ada.
> >
> >Cite references, please. Otherwise you are propagating myth.
>
> I'm not sure what it matters, but I've got a lot of indirect
evidence:
<snipped observations>
> I don't think it wins Ada anything for Ada supporters to deny the
obvious.
> More programmers are learning and using C++ than Ada. The
appropriate answer
> is "So?", not "Let me close my eyes and demand that you prove it."
Personal observations are fine -- that's what most of us are limited
to citing. What I object to is use of the word "fact" for what turns
out to be one person's personal observations, which must, by
definition, be limited in scope. He presented as fact that which was
not. No IMHO, no IMO, just "fact" and yes it does annoy me when
people who should know better do it. It especially annoys me when
they have an agenda to push. By that standard it is also a "fact"
that C++ is dead and Java has taken over. Likewise it is "fact" that
nobody programs in COBOL or FORTRAN any more.
--
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2000-02-04 0:00 where can we get a job with ada HollymaN
2000-02-03 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-04 0:00 ` EKoerber
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-02-05 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-06 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Gareth
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Simon Brady
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-02-07 0:00 ` Gareth
2000-02-08 0:00 ` Kent Paul Dolan
2000-02-11 0:00 ` where can we ... [off topic] Nick Roberts
2000-02-07 0:00 ` where can we get a job with ada Ted Dennison
2000-02-12 0:00 ` Jeff Carter
2000-02-28 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-02-29 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-03-01 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-03-04 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-03-05 0:00 ` Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada) Vladimir Olensky
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-03-08 0:00 ` Vladimir Olensky
2000-04-03 0:00 ` Andrew Thomas Wilson
2000-04-12 0:00 ` David Hoffman
2000-04-13 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ (was Re: Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada)) David Kristola
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Stanley R. Allen
2000-04-14 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-15 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-04-28 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-23 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-04-18 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-04-17 0:00 ` Gary Scott
2000-04-28 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-04-30 0:00 ` Robert B. Love
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-04-30 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Keith Thompson
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Brian Rogoff
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Strings TP/Ada (was Desirability of C++) Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Keith Thompson
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Delphi Strings (was Re: Desirability of C++) Ray Blaak
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Pascal Obry
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Paul Graham
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-05 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Robert A Duff
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Wes Groleau
2000-05-04 0:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2000-05-05 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Al Christians
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Preben Randhol
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Application in Ada (was Desirability of C++) Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-03 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Lionel Draghi
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-05-01 0:00 ` David Starner
2000-05-01 0:00 ` tmoran
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers [this message]
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Michael P. Walsh
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pat Rogers
2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-02 0:00 ` Bill Greene
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Robert Dewar
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Hyman Rosen
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-11 0:00 ` wv12
2000-05-11 0:00 ` Warner Bruns
2000-05-18 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-18 0:00 ` Warner Bruns
2000-05-19 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-24 0:00 ` Richard Kenner
2000-05-11 0:00 ` Frank J. Lhota
2000-05-07 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-07 0:00 ` ANTHONY GAIR
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Pascal Obry
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Ehud Lamm
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Richard D Riehle
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Mario Klebsch
2000-05-08 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-05-08 0:00 ` Gautier
2000-05-09 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
2000-05-10 0:00 ` Mario Klebsch
2000-05-10 0:00 ` Alfred Hilscher
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ken Garlington
2000-04-29 0:00 ` Ada on International Space Station (Re: where can we get a job with ada) Chris Johnston
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Ted Dennison
2000-05-01 0:00 ` Desirability of C++ Larry Kilgallen
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2000-05-01 0:00 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-03-05 0:00 ` where can we get a job with ada Ted Dennison
2000-03-22 0:00 ` Florian Weimer
2000-03-05 0:00 ` David Kristola
2000-02-04 0:00 ` Stanley R. Allen
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