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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Quick question regarding limited type return syntax
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:12:41 -0500
Date: 2014-07-31T21:12:41-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lret2q$fs$1@loke.gir.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bf9193d6-e1a8-4df3-8e36-b07a2b07655e@googlegroups.com

"Adam Beneschan" <adambeneschan@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:bf9193d6-e1a8-4df3-8e36-b07a2b07655e@googlegroups.com...
...
>The effect is that subcomponents of Database that have default initial 
>values
>will be initialized, and subcomponents that don't have default initial 
>values
>will be initialized to garbage (except where the language says otherwise).
>That's really the same as your original example was trying to do.  I guess
>that explicitly putting "others => <>" in an aggregate is enough to
>convince GNAT not to think you were accidentally leaving something
>initialized to garbage.

I'd hope so: the syntax you gave says that you explicitly wanted something 
initialized to garbage. :-) [OK, explicitly default-initialized, whatever 
that does.] It's not a compiler's job to second-guess explicit instructions, 
programmers would get really annoyed if it did (and have a hard time getting 
anything done).

It's annoying that we couldn't get this "explicit default-initialization" 
syntax more widely used. I prefer to ensure that everything is properly 
initialized, but sometimes the default value is good enough. It would be 
nice to be able to specify that:

      Obj : My_Type := <>;
or maybe
      Obj : My_Type := (<>);

so that I could verify that every object is either initialized or explicitly 
left default initialized. Right now, I use a comment:

     Obj : My_Type; -- Default initialize is OK here, because ...

but it's hard for a tool to tell that everything is as it should be.

(We tried to allow "(<>)" for private types for Ada 2005, but ran into a 
number of problems that eventually led us to give up. Too bad, I don't think 
they were insurmountable, but we were running short on time.)

                                            Randy.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-01  2:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-30 23:51 Quick question regarding limited type return syntax NiGHTS
2014-07-31  0:02 ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-31  0:56   ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  0:48 ` Shark8
2014-07-31  1:00   ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  1:29     ` Adam Beneschan
2014-07-31  1:38       ` NiGHTS
2014-07-31  4:01         ` Shark8
2014-08-01  2:12       ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2014-08-01  3:40         ` Shark8
2014-08-01  7:57         ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-01 19:23           ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-01 19:37             ` J-P. Rosen
2014-08-01 20:53             ` Shark8
2014-08-02  7:11               ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-02  7:34                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 13:20                   ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02 13:44                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 14:34                       ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02 16:56                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-02 20:35                           ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-03  7:30                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04  9:24                               ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-04 10:42                                 ` G.B.
2014-08-04 11:39                                   ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-04 17:49                                     ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-04 11:36                                 ` Peter Chapin
2014-08-04 12:43                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 16:19                                   ` G.B.
2014-08-04 16:38                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 16:51                                       ` G.B.
2014-08-04 17:23                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-04 19:37                                   ` Niklas Holsti
2014-08-05  8:30                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-08-05 19:24                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2014-08-03 16:35                           ` Robert A Duff
2014-08-02  8:02               ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-08-02 19:20                 ` Shark8
2014-08-03 16:07                   ` Default values (Was: Quick question regarding limited type return syntax) Jacob Sparre Andersen
2014-08-04 21:29                     ` Randy Brukardt
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