From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Subject: Re: OpenSSL development (Heartbleed)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2014-04-22T16:57:28+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <lj671n$bj6$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 19mxjybev4fc9.1fkxznem326v8$.dlg@40tude.net
On 2014-04-22, Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:20:13 +0200, G.B. wrote:
>>
>> Evidence, indeed!
>> Now given ISO/IEC 27000, a family of standards revolving
>> around security, and Heartbleed, what can anyone do to make
>> standards effecive?
>
> Properly designed standards, maybe? Let me ask a stupid question. What has
> a transport level protocol to do with the application level's servers (and
> clients)? If it really were a strictly transport level, no implementation
> could leak data out of higher levels. Right?
>
No, properly _implemented_ standards are what is required.
Heartbleed came about because a boundary check was missing which allowed
a invalid request to be processed instead of being rejected and, because
of the _implementation_, was allowed access to memory that had nothing to
do with the request.
This was a failure in the implementation of the standard, not a failure
of the standard itself.
Simon.
--
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world
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2014-04-19 14:31 OpenSSL development (Heartbleed) Alan Browne
2014-04-19 15:06 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-04-19 15:41 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 15:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 16:00 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 16:34 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 17:06 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 19:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 20:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 19:42 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-21 23:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-22 15:20 ` G.B.
2014-04-22 16:33 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-22 16:57 ` Simon Clubley [this message]
2014-04-22 19:53 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-22 20:49 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-23 5:38 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-04-23 7:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-23 7:40 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-04-23 8:04 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-23 8:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-23 7:42 ` Egil H H
2014-04-23 8:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 16:06 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 16:42 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 16:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 19:12 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 20:20 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 20:53 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 21:10 ` [OT] OpenBSD, was: " Simon Clubley
2014-04-19 21:53 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 22:15 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-04-19 22:34 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-20 8:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-20 16:49 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-22 12:18 ` G.B.
2014-04-19 15:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 16:21 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 16:46 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 19:22 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 20:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 21:10 ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 16:50 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 19:25 ` Alan Browne
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