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From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Subject: Re: OpenSSL development (Heartbleed)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:57:28 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2014-04-22T16:57:28+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <lj671n$bj6$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 19mxjybev4fc9.1fkxznem326v8$.dlg@40tude.net

On 2014-04-22, Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 17:20:13 +0200, G.B. wrote:
>> 
>> Evidence, indeed!
>>   Now given ISO/IEC 27000, a family of standards revolving
>> around security, and Heartbleed, what can anyone do to make
>> standards effecive?
>
> Properly designed standards, maybe? Let me ask a stupid question. What has
> a transport level protocol to do with the application level's servers (and
> clients)? If it really were a strictly transport level, no implementation
> could leak data out of higher levels. Right?
>

No, properly _implemented_ standards are what is required.

Heartbleed came about because a boundary check was missing which allowed
a invalid request to be processed instead of being rejected and, because
of the _implementation_, was allowed access to memory that had nothing to
do with the request.

This was a failure in the implementation of the standard, not a failure
of the standard itself.

Simon.

-- 
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-22 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-19 14:31 OpenSSL development (Heartbleed) Alan Browne
2014-04-19 15:06 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-04-19 15:41   ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 15:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 16:00   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 16:34     ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 17:06       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 19:13         ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 20:39           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 19:42       ` Alan Browne
2014-04-21 23:51       ` Randy Brukardt
2014-04-22 15:20         ` G.B.
2014-04-22 16:33           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-22 16:57             ` Simon Clubley [this message]
2014-04-22 19:53               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-22 20:49                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-23  5:38                 ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-04-23  7:30                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-23  7:40                     ` Natasha Kerensikova
2014-04-23  8:04                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2014-04-23  8:20                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-23  7:42                     ` Egil H H
2014-04-23  8:06                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 16:06   ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 16:42     ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 16:59       ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 19:12       ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 20:20         ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 20:53           ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 21:10             ` [OT] OpenBSD, was: " Simon Clubley
2014-04-19 21:53               ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 22:15                 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2014-04-19 22:34                   ` Alan Browne
2014-04-20  8:17             ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-20 16:49               ` Alan Browne
2014-04-22 12:18                 ` G.B.
2014-04-19 15:47 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 16:21   ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 16:46     ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 19:22       ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 20:33         ` Georg Bauhaus
2014-04-19 21:10           ` Alan Browne
2014-04-19 16:50     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2014-04-19 19:25       ` Alan Browne
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