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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:31:32 -0500
Date: 2013-07-08T15:31:32-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <krf7j5$1g0$1@loke.gir.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: roqq0dhh1do.ckvrzq4256q1$.dlg@40tude.net

"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message 
news:roqq0dhh1do.ckvrzq4256q1$.dlg@40tude.net...
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> You will need interrupts, you will need tasking you will need real-time
> clock.

You don't need the first to have the second two (Janus/Ada does not support 
interrupts; it was originally designed for MS-DOS which has no tasking nor 
allows any OS reentrancy).

On a single-board computer, you don't really need interrupts because polling 
works just as well (and you have nothing else that the machine might be 
doing, preventing latency problems). [Even on Windows, polling works very 
well with just a tiny bit of care (don't write a long-running loop without 
something that breaks it up); Janus/Ada is careful to use "sleep" when 
nothing is going on.]

> Of course, it would be possible to implement ad-hoc kludges to handle any
> of this. But the result will be so fragile that any small changes in the
> application will require redesigning the "OS". It is simply not the Ada 
> way
> (TM). Not even much the C way any more.

So you're saying that Janus/Ada is too fragile to exist (which is obviously 
false) and for some reason that changing the application (that is the Ada 
code) will require redesigning Janus/Ada (the Ada RTS). It's pretty obvious 
that is not true. :-)

                                 Randy.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-08 20:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19  7:51 Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Marcus F
2013-06-19 18:20 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-19 18:59   ` Marcus F
2013-06-19 19:25     ` Marcus F
2013-07-12 20:35     ` Rego, P.
2013-07-12 20:37       ` Rego, P.
2013-07-07  9:16 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Lucretia
2013-07-07  9:56   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 10:58     ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-07 15:00       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 16:27         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-08  7:43           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 10:54             ` G.B.
2013-07-08 12:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 12:56                 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 14:06                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 14:43                     ` G.B.
2013-07-08 17:23                     ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 18:55                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:53                         ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 12:57                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 13:11                             ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 20:30                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:23                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10  8:06                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 12:25                                 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-10 22:17                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 16:58                                     ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-11 22:07                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 13:15                 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 13:59                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  0:53                     ` mjsilva
2013-07-08 20:31             ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2013-07-08 20:45               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  0:19                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09  0:27             ` mjsilva
2013-07-09  7:51               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  8:33                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09  9:12                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:08                     ` G.B.
2013-07-09 12:28                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 14:20                         ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:00                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 23:13                             ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09 15:38                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 19:48                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:10                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:09                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 22:21                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11  6:12                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-11 22:00                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10  1:31                     ` mjsilva
2013-07-10  8:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 22:39                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 13:53     ` Shmuel Metz
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