From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 15:31:32 -0500
Date: 2013-07-08T15:31:32-05:00 [thread overview]
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"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
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> You will need interrupts, you will need tasking you will need real-time
> clock.
You don't need the first to have the second two (Janus/Ada does not support
interrupts; it was originally designed for MS-DOS which has no tasking nor
allows any OS reentrancy).
On a single-board computer, you don't really need interrupts because polling
works just as well (and you have nothing else that the machine might be
doing, preventing latency problems). [Even on Windows, polling works very
well with just a tiny bit of care (don't write a long-running loop without
something that breaks it up); Janus/Ada is careful to use "sleep" when
nothing is going on.]
> Of course, it would be possible to implement ad-hoc kludges to handle any
> of this. But the result will be so fragile that any small changes in the
> application will require redesigning the "OS". It is simply not the Ada
> way
> (TM). Not even much the C way any more.
So you're saying that Janus/Ada is too fragile to exist (which is obviously
false) and for some reason that changing the application (that is the Ada
code) will require redesigning Janus/Ada (the Ada RTS). It's pretty obvious
that is not true. :-)
Randy.
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2013-06-19 7:51 Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Marcus F
2013-06-19 18:20 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-19 18:59 ` Marcus F
2013-06-19 19:25 ` Marcus F
2013-07-12 20:35 ` Rego, P.
2013-07-12 20:37 ` Rego, P.
2013-07-07 9:16 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Lucretia
2013-07-07 9:56 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 10:58 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-07 15:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 16:27 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-08 7:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 10:54 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 12:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 12:56 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 14:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 14:43 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 17:23 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 18:55 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:53 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 12:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 13:11 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 20:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:23 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 8:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 12:25 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-10 22:17 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 16:58 ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-11 22:07 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 13:15 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 13:59 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 0:53 ` mjsilva
2013-07-08 20:31 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2013-07-08 20:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 0:19 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 0:27 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 7:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 8:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09 9:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:08 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 12:28 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 14:20 ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 23:13 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09 15:38 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 19:48 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:10 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:09 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 22:21 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 6:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-11 22:00 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10 1:31 ` mjsilva
2013-07-10 8:17 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 22:39 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 13:53 ` Shmuel Metz
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