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From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP>
Subject: Re: Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:56:44 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2013-07-08T12:56:44+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <krecub$nr7$1@dont-email.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: ubt9b69ldebq.1wnxaj31ml9yt$.dlg@40tude.net

On 2013-07-08, Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 12:54:56 +0200, G.B. wrote:
>
>> Non-modern hardware is as cheap as a plastic spoon!
>
> That is why it is not available. Fetch me an i486 board.
>  
>> Price is a convincing argument when the effect of the embedded
>> system is simple.
>
> Not really. In fact embedded boards are far more expensive than consumer's
> boards. An industrial Atom board has the price of a complete PC with ten
> times more memory and higher performance.
>

If that's what you think, then it's time for you to become enlightened,
Dmitry. :-)

Start here:

https://www.olimex.com/Products/

When people come to comp.lang.ada and talk about wanting to learn Ada and
get it running in a bare metal environment, then quite often they are
talking about these types of boards, not the safety critical ones with
a price tag to match.

Not everyone needs the industrial type boards you obviously need during
your work, and there is a _vast_ embedded world of which your industrial
type environment is only a small part.

>> If Ada vendors wish to loose all but the market for expensive high
>> end systems, then that's their choice.
>
> It is not their choice. It is the board vendors who determine what is in
> the BSP. No Ada vendor has the resources to port it on every possible
> board.
>

There's nothing to stop a end user programmer writing their own BSP; this
appears to be a common capability for RTOS environments. I've written 2-3
BSPs for RTEMS over the years.

Simon.

-- 
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world

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Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-19  7:51 Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Marcus F
2013-06-19 18:20 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running Ada Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-06-19 18:59   ` Marcus F
2013-06-19 19:25     ` Marcus F
2013-07-12 20:35     ` Rego, P.
2013-07-12 20:37       ` Rego, P.
2013-07-07  9:16 ` Point a beginner in the right direction? Cheap bare-board to run with a RTOS for running ADA Lucretia
2013-07-07  9:56   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 10:58     ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-07 15:00       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-07 16:27         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-07-08  7:43           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 10:54             ` G.B.
2013-07-08 12:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 12:56                 ` Simon Clubley [this message]
2013-07-08 14:06                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-08 14:43                     ` G.B.
2013-07-08 17:23                     ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-08 18:55                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:53                         ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 12:57                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 13:11                             ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-09 20:30                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:23                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10  8:06                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 12:25                                 ` Simon Clubley
2013-07-10 22:17                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11 16:58                                     ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-07-11 22:07                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 13:15                 ` G.B.
2013-07-08 13:59                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  0:53                     ` mjsilva
2013-07-08 20:31             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-08 20:45               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  0:19                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09  0:27             ` mjsilva
2013-07-09  7:51               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09  8:33                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-09  9:12                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 11:08                     ` G.B.
2013-07-09 12:28                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 14:20                         ` G.B.
2013-07-09 15:00                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 23:13                             ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-07-09 15:38                 ` mjsilva
2013-07-09 19:48                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-09 20:10                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 22:09                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-10 22:21                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-11  6:12                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-07-11 22:00                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-10  1:31                     ` mjsilva
2013-07-10  8:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 22:39                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 13:53     ` Shmuel Metz
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