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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:20:05 -0500
Date: 2013-06-24T15:20:05-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kqa9ll$ba8$1@loke.gir.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccr4ftko44.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com

"Robert A Duff" <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote in message 
news:wccr4ftko44.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com...
> Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid> writes:
>
>> Maybe my post was unclear: I tried to contradict Bob Duff's recollection
>> that an opaque type in Modula-2 is more like an Ada private type than
>> like an "stt access type". I think that a Modula-2 opaque type is very
>> similar to an "stt access type". Do you agree with me?
>
> Yes, given your quotes from Wirth, I agree that Modula-2 opaque types
> are much like stt access types.  I had remembered the restriction
> differently:  the type was required to fit in the size of a pointer,
> which included integers and enums and small records.  Probably the
> Modula-2 compiler I used had a nonstandard extension -- or else I am
> misremembering.

My recollection matches yours, Bob. Perhaps the rule was changed in later 
versions of the language. In any case, the Modula-2 obaque type is *not* a 
pointer type, so in that sense it is much more like an Ada private type than 
an access type of any sort. (I.e., I don't buy this analogy, especially as 
there isn't any such thing as an stt-access-type -- the operative thing is 
an stt-incomplete-type, which is nothing like a Modula-2 opaque type. The 
access type is completely normal, its the designated object that's special.)

                              Randy.


  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-24 20:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-21  8:43 Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components Martin
2013-06-21  9:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21  9:33   ` Martin
2013-06-21 10:14     ` G.B.
2013-06-21 11:19       ` Martin
2013-06-21 14:51     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-22 11:16       ` Martin
2013-06-22 12:10         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 18:36 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-22 16:41   ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-22 19:05     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-22 22:57       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23  3:26         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-23  7:32           ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 13:12             ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 14:06               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 15:15                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:52                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 23:38                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24  7:16                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-24 20:11                         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25  7:21                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-25 19:06                             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:07                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 14:40               ` Shark8
2013-06-23 15:28                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:14                   ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-23 23:43                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 23:48                       ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-24 20:16                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:05               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25  1:09                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:37                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 12:28         ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24 20:20           ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2013-06-24 21:40             ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-25  0:43               ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:23                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 19:19               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 11:24   ` Martin
2013-07-09 14:39     ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10  7:03       ` Martin
2013-07-09 21:43     ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-10  6:34       ` Martin
2013-07-10  8:24         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 13:06           ` Martin
2013-07-10 16:12     ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 18:22       ` Martin
2013-07-10 19:41         ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 18:28           ` Martin
2013-07-11 19:37             ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 20:43               ` Martin
2013-07-12  6:57                 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-12  8:05                   ` Martin
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