From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:07:17 -0500
Date: 2013-06-24T15:07:17-05:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <kqa8tm$ahr$1@loke.gir.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1im71djlxwm94$.fbjv1si7kmvj$.dlg@40tude.net
"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:12:53 -0400, Robert A Duff wrote:
>
>> It is also the reason for the private part kludge: the compiler sees
>> the size of the full type for a private type (assuming it is known
>> at compile time). But this reasoning makes no sense to me, because
>> that's not how Ada compilers work. Any reasonable implementation
>> of generics and inlining needs to look at bodies. So full types
>> should be in bodies, and compilers should look there (at least
>> in optimizing mode) to find out their size.
>
> ... or there should be no generics.
>
> The kludge here rather is generics and inlining, both basically are macro
> expansions.
Or better, they can be done at bind time without any impact on what
compilers look at. Bob is just plain wrong in the above -- perhaps that is
how GNAT and AdaMagic works, but there is no reason that an Ada compiler has
to (or *ought* to) work that way.
Randy.
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Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-06-21 8:43 Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components Martin
2013-06-21 9:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 9:33 ` Martin
2013-06-21 10:14 ` G.B.
2013-06-21 11:19 ` Martin
2013-06-21 14:51 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-22 11:16 ` Martin
2013-06-22 12:10 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 18:36 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-22 16:41 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-22 19:05 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-22 22:57 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 3:26 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-23 7:32 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 13:12 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 14:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 15:15 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:52 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 23:38 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24 7:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-24 20:11 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 7:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-25 19:06 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:07 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2013-06-23 14:40 ` Shark8
2013-06-23 15:28 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:14 ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-23 23:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 23:48 ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-24 20:16 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:05 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 1:09 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:37 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 12:28 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24 20:20 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 21:40 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-25 0:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 19:19 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 11:24 ` Martin
2013-07-09 14:39 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 7:03 ` Martin
2013-07-09 21:43 ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-10 6:34 ` Martin
2013-07-10 8:24 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 13:06 ` Martin
2013-07-10 16:12 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 18:22 ` Martin
2013-07-10 19:41 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 18:28 ` Martin
2013-07-11 19:37 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 20:43 ` Martin
2013-07-12 6:57 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-12 8:05 ` Martin
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