From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: LALR parser question
Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 16:57:20 -0500
Date: 2013-05-02T16:57:20-05:00 [thread overview]
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"Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)" <yannick_duchene@yahoo.fr> wrote in message
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Le Thu, 02 May 2013 03:49:53 +0200, Randy Brukardt <randy@rrsoftware.com>
a écrit:
>> I tend to agree that the speed of parsing doesn't matter that much, but
>> you
>> would be surprised at how slow some compilers were at parsing and syntax
>> analysis, especially before GNAT came out. We actually had a pretty
>> decent
>> business from companies that bought our fast compiler just to do
>> pre-compiles on before using their main development slug to build the
>> actual
>> system.
>
>More precisely, is there an average picture? What is considered fast and
>what is considered slow? Which amount of sample Ada sources parsed in
>which amount of time? How slow was their "main development slug"? How fast
>is Janus Ada compared to theirs?
I couldn't answer these questions numerically; we didn't own those other
compilers that were too slow. And it was a long time ago. I'd heard that in
some cases it was a factor of 10. But the numbers are hardly relevant today.
Obviously, the developers thought that they saved enough time doing
check-out compilations using Janus/Ada to justify paying for a license,
which was not free. So that suggests that there the main system was pretty
slow (probably on the order of hours).
After all, in those days it took 4 or so hours to do a full recompile of
Janus/Ada. (It's under 5 minutes today.) We spent a lot of effort trying not
to make changes to the symboltable in order to avoid those long compiles,
which lead to all kinds of misuses of existing components. It's always a
pain when one of those turns up (these days, I change them to have
meaningful names and fewer tricks, of course, although its not always worth
the effort to change).
Randy.
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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-28 13:37 LALR parser question Stephen Leake
2013-04-28 14:43 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-04-30 1:19 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-04-30 2:03 ` John B. Matthews
2013-04-30 4:11 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-04-30 11:55 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-04-30 13:14 ` john
2013-04-30 14:14 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-05-01 11:33 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-04-30 16:06 ` Shark8
2013-04-30 17:15 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-04-30 17:51 ` Shark8
2013-04-30 18:52 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-05-01 12:31 ` Stephen Leake
2013-05-01 13:57 ` Shark8
2013-04-30 21:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-04-30 22:09 ` Shark8
2013-05-02 1:49 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-05-02 2:39 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2013-05-02 21:57 ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2013-05-06 18:25 ` Oliver Kellogg
2013-05-03 9:45 ` Stephen Leake
2013-05-03 22:57 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-05-06 9:45 ` Stephen Leake
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