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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 22:02:13 +0100
Date: 2015-10-28T22:02:13+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ki9oomfymbau.ckpvghtqa42n.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87d1vy3f46.fsf@theworld.com

On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:36:09 -0400, Bob Duff wrote:

> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
> 
>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2015 12:06:33 +0100, Georg Bauhaus wrote:
>>> However, another use of predicates is to document assumptions.
>>
>> Documenting *shall* have *no* run-time effects.
> 
> Really?!
> 
> In C, we can write:
> 
>     int num_gizmos = 0; // num_gizmos is always between 0 and 1024.
> 
> In Ada, we can write:
> 
>     type Gizmo_Count is range 0 .. 2**10;
>     Num_Gizmos: Gizmo_Count := 0;
> 
> IMHO, documenting the 0..1024 requirement in executable code is much
> better than using a comment:

How is that documenting? It is a direct instruction to the compiler.
Documentation is addressed to the human reader.

The advantage of Ada over C is that where in Ada you can instruct, in C the
only way is to document.

> By the way, what exactly do you mean by "shall"?  A native speaker of
> English doesn't usually use that word, except in legal documents and the
> like.  You seem to use the word "shall" to express opinions about the
> way things ought to be, which seems like an odd usage to me.

OK

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de


  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-28 21:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-26 10:00 function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io comicfanzine
2015-10-26 11:27 ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 13:25   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-26 18:01     ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 19:03       ` AdaMagica
2015-10-27 11:30         ` Simon Wright
2015-10-26 18:02     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-10-26 13:28   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-26 15:07     ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-10-26 16:37     ` AdaMagica
2015-10-26 20:46     ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-27  8:42   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27 11:34     ` Simon Wright
2015-10-28 13:32       ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27  8:51   ` comicfanzine
2015-10-27 17:15     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2015-10-26 22:48 ` Bob Duff
2015-10-27  8:30   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 13:30     ` Bob Duff
2015-10-27 14:00       ` G.B.
2015-10-27 15:26       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 16:43         ` G.B.
2015-10-27 20:04           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 11:06             ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-28 17:58               ` Randy Brukardt
2015-10-28 18:20               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 20:36                 ` Bob Duff
2015-10-28 21:02                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2015-10-29 11:25                     ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 13:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-29 17:57                         ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 18:12                           ` AdaMagica
2015-10-29 18:26                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30  8:27                           ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2015-10-30  9:11                             ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-29 11:47                 ` G.B.
2015-10-29 13:01                   ` J-P. Rosen
2015-10-29 14:00                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30  1:06                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-30  8:39                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30 14:32                         ` G.B.
2015-10-30 16:20                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-30 19:07                             ` G.B.
2015-10-31  9:31                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-31 11:17                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2015-10-30 14:40                         ` G.B.
2015-10-30 16:26                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-28 20:07         ` Bob Duff
2015-10-28 20:59           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 14:02     ` G.B.
2015-10-27 15:10       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2015-10-27 16:41         ` G.B.
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