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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: Easiest way to build Qt/Gtk interfaces for Ada programs
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:49:28 -0600
Date: 2012-12-31T15:49:28-06:00	[thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: 4f9f0be9-7c11-4499-8c6d-1a56ed6e4f3c@googlegroups.com

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"Justin Time" <francois_fabien@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:4f9f0be9-7c11-4499-8c6d-1a56ed6e4f3c@googlegroups.com...
Le samedi 29 d�cembre 2012 01:48:37 UTC+1, Randy Brukardt a �crit :
> wrote in message
...
>> I suspect that this workflow is the problem that Dmitry is referring to. 
>> It
>> doesn't mesh well with incremental, agile development, where you are
>> constantly tweaking both the GUI and the code that supports it.
>>
>The gate3 tool is not intented for incremental development.
>It just ouputs a sketch (with stubs for the callbacks).
>It is almost stupid but saves time of typing repetitive code.
>For complete newbies, they can get a prototype very quickly.

IMHO, all projects need incremental development. The number of times that 
you know exactly what you want beforehand is vanishingly small.

>And the advantage of Gtkbuilder is the good decoupling between UI
>and code. One can modify the XML/glade file for layout and re-run the app
>without any recompilation

Sure, but that only works if you know exactly what windows/controls you want 
the first time. That's hardly likely.

>The perfect tool does not exist, but if you have one stupid tool that saves 
>you
>3 hours on a 3-day project that's not bad. On a 1 man-year project,
>you don't care.

I'd rather use a smarter tool that scales well, because I don't have time to 
learn a dozen tools for different sized projects. (If saving your 3 hours 
requires a six hour learning curve -- which is optimistic -- what are you 
gaining.) This is the same reason that I use Ada for virtually all of my 
programming - even for throwaways (because it's not that unusual for the 
throwaways to get used more than you think and need to be modified).

Anyway, tools choices are a fairly personal thing.

                                  Randy.





  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-31 21:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-28 14:51 Easiest way to build Qt/Gtk interfaces for Ada programs alb348
2012-12-28 15:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-12-28 17:30   ` alb348
2012-12-28 17:57     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-12-29  0:18   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-12-29  9:26     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-12-29 10:39       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-12-29 12:27         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-12-29 13:07           ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-12-29 13:26             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-12-29 13:09           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-12-29  0:27   ` Randy Brukardt
2012-12-29  1:02     ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-12-29  2:10       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-12-29  8:55       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-12-28 16:20 ` Vadim Godunko
2012-12-28 19:56   ` alb348
2012-12-28 20:38     ` Justin Time
2012-12-28 20:52       ` alb348
2012-12-29  0:48         ` Randy Brukardt
2012-12-29 10:23           ` Blady
2012-12-29 10:51             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2012-12-29 15:24           ` Justin Time
2012-12-31 21:49             ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2013-01-01 10:46               ` Justin Time
2013-01-01 12:24                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-01 16:55                   ` Justin Time
2013-01-02 10:00                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-12-28 17:58 ` Justin Time
2012-12-31  8:07   ` ldries46
2012-12-31 20:58     ` John B. Matthews
2013-01-04 23:39     ` Brian Drummond
2012-12-29 16:40 ` leonid.dulman
2012-12-29 18:12   ` alb348
2012-12-30 17:27 ` leonid.dulman
2013-01-04 13:53   ` Patrick
2013-01-04 23:31     ` Brian Drummond
2013-01-05  8:57       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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