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From: Justin Gombos <rpbkbq.xax.gld@uluv.kbq>
Subject: Re: Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then how?
Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2006 19:33:36 GMT
Date: 2006-04-15T19:33:36+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kUb0g.12753$b06.11866@trnddc08> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 443d10f4$0$18264$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net

On 2006-04-12, Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de> wrote:
> Justin Gombos wrote:
>
> Conflicting interests can also bring software production back on
> track. How about this: Sometimes programmers go astray and enjoy
> themselves writing wonderfully sophisticated "high quality"
> Ada. Meanwhile the toaster company goes out of business because
> their embedded temperature sensors will be so great, when they will
> finally arrive...

Right, so high quality products can have side effects, one of which is
lengthy development time.  This doesn't diminish the quality, but
rather the viability for the toaster company to leverage business gain
from whatever open source project they've targeted.

Your example requires you to combine two different open source models.
If the toaster company funds the development, then their interests are
in the forefront of the project, enabling them to control both the
quality and direction of the project.  If the toaster company is not
funding the effort, then they have no expectation of what direction
the product will take.  In this case, the problem is not with the open
source project they're trying to use, but rather the toaster company's
inability to plan ahead and select the right tool for the job (and
insource what they need if their supplier can't deliver what they
need, when they need it).

> How could we possibly know which interest are the ones that make us
> write the really great software products? What exactly is the one
> interest in the set of conflicting interests that should dominate
> because no compromise can be better?

In terms of pure quality, interests that favor quality should dominate
opposing interests, obviously.  One way or another, profits and rapid
production are often the competing interest that reduces quality.  If
you're focused on the bottom line, you must limit quality to that of
the requirement; you would be a poor businessman if you didn't.
Because the open source paradigm (particularly the non-profit variety)
is largely free from these conflicts, it naturally acquires the
charactoristics inherent in producing great products.

> Maybe there is not so much a compromising compromise but rather a
> method of combining the various interests into a satisfying solution
> to a problem. Presuming a problem is well defined, ever, in the real
> world.

Sure, a /satisfying/ solution (with satisfactory product quality) has
more tolerance for accommodating other interests, such as rapid
development and profit margin.

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-15 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-01 13:47 Any way of persuading GNAT/GCC to implement a true overlay and not a pointer? Doobs
2006-04-01 14:33 ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-04-01 16:52   ` Doobs
2006-04-01 17:56     ` Martin Krischik
2006-04-01 18:04     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-01 17:08 ` Florian Weimer
2006-04-01 17:54   ` Doobs
2006-04-01 18:19     ` Doobs
2006-04-01 20:01       ` Jeffrey Creem
2006-04-01 21:33         ` Doobs
2006-04-03 12:25           ` Gerd
2006-04-01 20:57       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-04  1:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-10  1:42   ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-10 20:12     ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-11 13:54       ` Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then how? Marc A. Criley
2006-04-11 15:13         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 16:22           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-11 17:56             ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 18:38               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 13:59                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 14:39                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-15 19:33                     ` Justin Gombos [this message]
2006-04-12 17:07                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-13  3:16                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-11 19:59               ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-11 20:18                 ` Ed Falis
2006-04-12 14:10                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 20:57                   ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-15 20:37                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-18  0:24                       ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-18 16:02                         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12 19:27                 ` Martin Dowie
2006-04-12  8:32               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 11:23                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 15:34                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 17:11                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-12 19:37                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-12 21:56                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-13  9:17                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-13 14:18                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-14 10:01                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-14 12:55                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-15 10:13                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-15 18:07                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-13  2:58                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-13  9:17                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-15 21:17                     ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-16 10:53                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-16 13:03                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-16 17:59                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-16 20:53                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-04-17  9:16                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-19 20:38                                 ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-20 18:01                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-18  0:29                             ` Randy Brukardt
2006-04-16 14:55                         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-16 17:59                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-19 18:17                             ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-20 18:07                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-11 15:34         ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-12  2:59         ` Steve
2006-04-13  7:41         ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2006-04-13 13:18           ` Marc A. Criley
2006-04-13 13:35             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-04-13 13:57             ` Making money on open source, if not by selling _support_, then Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-13 19:37               ` Justin Gombos
2006-04-13 21:02                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2006-04-14  2:49                   ` Justin Gombos
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